[DeTomaso] FW: Cat Aerodynamics

Will Kooiman wkooiman at earthlink.net
Sun May 18 12:49:50 EDT 2008


Slightly off topic:

The PC's available today are a lot more powerful than the Cray's from the
80's.

What makes PC's slow is the software that gets installed on them.

MS Windows isn't the most efficient operating system, but we've had a lot of
success using it for a database server platform.  I still prefer UNIX, but
I'm surprised at how well Windows works - as long as you don't install "all
the junk".

Unfortunately, you have to install a lot of "the junk" with Windows.  For
example, if you don't run a virus scan suite, you're opening yourself up to
disaster.  Virus scans are very resource intensive.

Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) came out with the Alpha chipset in the
90's.  They had problems exporting servers to Europe because the U.S. had
rules that prevented exporting supercomputer technology.  That was over 10
years ago.  The CPU's today are probably 10 times faster than the original
Alpha CPU's.

My point is that anyone that has purchased a new computer in the last 5
years or so, essentially already has a supercomputer (probably 100 times
faster than a mid-1980's Cray).  They just don't know it because they have
so much junk running on their computer.

If this modeling software is still slow, then probably:

a. The server has too much junk on it.
b. It's written in Java.
c. It's running on 32-bit Windows.
d. It is poorly written.
e. I don't know what I'm talking about.

Will.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Hawkins
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:54 PM
To: Detomaso forum
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Cat Aerodynamics

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Londry [mailto:davel at emspace.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:56 PM
To: Ken Green
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cat Aerodynamics


I used to work for Cray, which doesn't help now, other than knowing which
customers ran CFD on our machines,
 but we might have at least an interested person with access to a big
machine. 
It doesn't have to be a monster, we can wait a lot longer for a run than an
F1 team can.
dave

Ken Green wrote: 

I asked a friend about this stuff, and he pointed out that you almost need a
super computer to run their software.  Not quite for the masses.  
 
Ken

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