[DeTomaso] Other Aero Issues

Thu May 15 12:56:41 EDT 2008

Some of the cars you list as examples are quite old and not what I  
would call state of the art.  "Keeping up" w/ LSR often means being an  
eye-witness to every run made on a given day, looking at old pictures  
won't always do it.

There are many, many cars runing against records that you haven't seen  
(recognized). and there is a lot more to LSR than flat/shiny paint.   
(Witness the $%#&* door slammer Firebirds/Camaros running in the high  
2s - that means 250mph and up)

I'll bet you a nickel if you try to get sponsorship for a car the  
sponsor will want a shiny car.

A wonderful thing about Amerika is that one can express opinions at  
will, my wish is that folks would label post as opinion or fact based  
(and not "I heard once that . . . ")

Sometimes small changes make for big improvements (Opinion) in the  
complicated game of aerodynamics.  There are times a proven (on the  
great white dyno) change cannot be satisfactorily explained.

Keep the rubber side down.

regards,
David

Quoting "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>:

> No I haven't, but I do keep up.
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> Spirit of America - Shiny
> Bluebird - Shiny
> Wingfoot Express - Shiny
> The Green Monster - Shiny
> Goldenrod - Shiny
> Blue Flame - Shiny
> Thrust - Shiny
> Thrust SSC - Shiny
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> SST/ Concorde - Shiny
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> Atlas V - Shiny
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> Shuttle- not so shiny and not as fast
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> I'm sure that there are examples of lower classes that swear by primer,
> I just don't see any flat sheened F1 Cars, IMSA, FIA, NASCAR ( except on pre
> season test days when logos are not allowed ) Top Fuel, Funny Cars, IRL,
> CART or any other sanctioned race cars that all have way more resources to
> study the negligible effects of paint on overall top speed.
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> My deck lid latch broke last fall and at 80-100 mph on the way home, it
> found itself about 2 inches raised and stayed there as long as the speed was
> there then settled down when I slowed down ( after I removed the deck lid
> shocks ),  Sorry I didn't try going backwards.
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> The idea of a bellypan to smooth out the engine area is just not very well
> thought out unless you plan on enclosing everything fore of the engine as
> well, the turbulence under there would negate any advantages. Old GTP Cars
> had full ground effects from nose to tail and tunnels built around the half
> shafts, etc to facilitate air travel, anything less is a waste of time.
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> the best solution if you really want to try something is an air dam and side
> skirts made of rubber and it's uglier than Hillary's chances at victory in
> November.
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> Good Grief, these are amazing beautiful 35 year old cars, appreciate them
> for what they are, if you want a Veyron or something, get one of those or
> something more modern like a Ford GT, a great car with new technology.
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> It just seems to me like some people out there wanna keep doing plastic
> surgery on Raquel Welch instead of dating Jessica Alba. and gentlemen,
> Jessica Alba will NEVER be equal to Raquel Welch....no matter what you do to
> her!
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> Michael in Savannah
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> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:59 AM, <adin at frontier.net> wrote:
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>> I can tell you've never been to bonneville . . .
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>> > never seen a dull finish on any land speed record car,
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