[DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints

[Fernando Bianchi]

I did bought from Maserati Parts the replacement bushings and ball joints. 
 
I havent install them yet as my car is "everywhere", being restored but they are exactly the same and good quality looking too.
I bought them about a year ago.
 
Fernando.> From: detomaso-request at realbig.com> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 44, Issue 14> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:00:07 -0500> > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to> detomaso at list.realbig.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> detomaso-request at list.realbig.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> detomaso-owner at list.realbig.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Any Washington D.C. area Panteras out there?> (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 2. Re: Austrian Pantera owner visiting California next week> (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 3. Re: Breakin lube (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 4. Re: Starter Refresh (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 5. The Italian Checker (Garth Rodericks)> 6. Re: Aldan Eagle Shocks (Mike Thomas)> 7. Re: The Italian Checker (Mike Thomas)> 8. Re: The Italian Checker (Mike Thomas)> 9. Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints (Scott Couchman)> 10. Very Bling Bling NOS TCI aluminum 351C harmonic damper on> ebay (cheap?) (Ken Green)> 11. Heater valve Rebuild (clay willmott)> 12. Re: Heater valve Rebuild (Charles Engles)> 13. Re: Any Washington D.C. area Panteras out there?> (Pantera74L at aol.com)> 14. What ever happened to... (tony DiGiovanna)> 15. Elephant Ears (tony DiGiovanna)> 16. Re: Breakin lube (Dave Doddek)> 17. Re: Very Bling Bling NOS TCI aluminum 351C harmonic damper on> ebay (cheap?) (rimov at charter.net)> 18. Re: Very Bling Bling NOS TCI aluminum 351C harmonic damper on> ebay (cheap?) (rimov at charter.net)> 19. Re: Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints (Mike Thomas)> 20. Re: Yellow P on eBay (ProvaMo.com)> 21. Re: Yellow P on eBay (ProvaMo.com)> 22. Re: Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints (Will Kooiman)> 23. Re: Heater valve Rebuild (Christopher Kimball)> 24. Re: Article (Dave Londry)> 25. Re: Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints> (SOBill at aol.com)> 26. Re: Elephant Ears (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 27. El Pantero (Will Demelo)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:46:19 EDT> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Any Washington D.C. area Panteras out there?> To: markushgroup at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <c7b.299d7470.350a6e0b at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"> > > In a message dated 3/12/08 18 20 14, markushgroup at yahoo.com writes:> > > > I have accepted a job at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office in > > Alexandria, VA.? Now that I have some extra income, I'll be fixing up #2428 as well as > > start work on #6559.> > > > Cal,> > Chesapeake Panteras is alive and well; I think Larry Hannah is the only > Pantera owner within DC proper but there are a ton of owners in the surrounding > area. You'll be in good hands--and will be able to count on help with the > resurrection project too. :>)> > Mike> > > **************> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance.> (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:49:21 EDT> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Austrian Pantera owner visiting California> next week> To: Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net, MikeLDrew at aol.com, Woehlrwrld at aol.com> Cc: trevor at fougere.com, s.exenberger at kufnet.at, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <cb8.28cc1bcb.350a6ec1 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > > In a message dated 3/12/08 19 36 41, Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net writes:> > > > I'll be around, add me to his contact list.> > > > Trevor is interested in meeting him also.> > > Maybe if Markus Woehler has his parts, we can spend a day working on his car > also? And he can speak German with Sebastian and his son! :>)> > Markus--what's the status of your parts procurement? Are you free on > Tuesday or Wednesday next week?> > Mike> > > > **************> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance.> (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:51:02 EDT> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakin lube> To: wdemelo at cogeco.ca, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <cb9.2914d145.350ad196 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > In a message dated 3/12/08 2:05:34 PM, wdemelo at cogeco.ca writes:> > > What is recommended for lifter/cam lube during installation?> > > Coat each lifter and cam lobe with some sort of high-load grease (NOT chassis > grease!). I use Isky Cam Lube which looks like a moly-paste but may have > extra stuff in it as well. Use plenty; most cam lobe/lifter failures occur in the > 1st 5 minutes of running a new cam & lifters. If using stock valves, also use > a stock cam, lifters & springs, all of which combine to valve-float at rpms > below that which normally causes valve failure. Or throw in a rev-limiter set > to about 5200 rpms and warn your customer not to change chips without > chaniging all the other stuff.Good luck- J DeRyke> > > **************> It's Tax Time! Get > tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance.> > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:16:08 EDT> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Starter Refresh> To: edlebby at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com, SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <c19.31e31e16.350ad778 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > First, a more expensive deep-cycle battery only allows you to grind and grind > on the starter without destroying the battery. But if things are correct in > engine-ville, the engine will start reliably with a battery of half the stock > Group 27, 94-amp specifications. Much of the slowness in starting is the carb > float-bowls not being filled due to the car not being in daily use. So you use > the poor starter to fill up the carb; very hard on a battery. I have a cheap > electric booster fuel pump that is in parallel with the stock mechanical fuel > pump. It is ONLY used to fill the carb for starting. Use plastic covers on the > positive battery pole so the hood reinforcement cannot possibly touch the > 'hot' post.> > Second, while I like welding cable for grounding, a stock 12-v ground cable > will work, attached on an engine head-bolt or the ZF end-cap stud. It also > makes no sense to me to buy a plastic-coated insulated ground cable, incidently; > the whole idea is to ground the thing! > > Third, buying a rebuilt stock starter is not a sure cure for anything. Inside > the integral starter solenoid are a pair of huge copper contacts that > transfer battery amperage to the starter motor windings. These copper load-carrying > contacts are mounted in substantial dielectric mounts. Cheap rebuilds often > use nylon rather than stock melamine dielectric mounts. Carrying 90-200 amps of > current heats up the copper contacts and causes nylon to melt and sag, > dropping the contacts away from each other. Result: a dozen starting attempts and > the 'new' solenoid no longer works. Stick with quality rebuilds or ideally, a > mini-starter from a vendor so yoiu know it fits. Good luck- J DeRyke> > > > **************> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance.> > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:11:03 -0700 (PDT)> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] The Italian Checker> To: detomaso at realbig.com, chrisvkimball at msn.com> Message-ID: <412785.71384.qm at web56915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > Here's a video featuring a 67 Ghia Centurion, the same car featured in the Hemmings article I believe:> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKUO4M_2qSs> > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.> > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:02:58 -0700> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aldan Eagle Shocks> To: "'Scott Couchman'" <scottcouchman at yahoo.com>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <S606890AbYCNBBA/20080314010103Z+1203 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Scott> > I am strictly road driver, and the 350/550 combination I have is just right> for that with the jounce and rebound set at 9 and 2.> > Some of the Silver Staters may want to chime in though (Dawg?) that> something stiffer would be needed for the high speeds. Now, the beauty of> the Aldans is that you can buy alternate sets of springs for not a lot of> additional money. Use the 350/550 when your not on the track or tearing up> the desert, and then have a firmer set to swap out for track time.> > Guys, your thoughts?> > Mike Thomas> Panteras Northwest> > _____ > > From: Scott Couchman [mailto:scottcouchman at yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:39 PM> To: mbefthomas at comcast.net> Subject: Aldan Eagle Shocks> > > Mike, I went back to your post last October about your Aldan Eagle shocks.> I'm ready to buy a set and plan to go with the double adjustable versions. I> primarily enjoy the car around town, but just completed a full engine/ZF> rebuild with full roller valvetrain with a medium cam with the goal of> making something north of 400/ plus a taller 5th gear all with the goal of> hitting 165 at SilverState events. I'd like to be able to enjoy the car> around town, but still keep it on the road and out of the desert in Nevada.> The 758HP (Hall Pantera??) comes with 12" springs, and 12" springs only come> in 350/500/550/600/650/700, but no 400 or 450. Based on your reply to Will> Demelo's post, I assume you've got the 350/550 combination??? Any more> thoughts about spring rates based on your experience? Scott> > > > _____ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8> HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> it now.> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:09:11 -0700> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Italian Checker> To: "'Mark McWhinney'" <msm at portata.com>, "'Christopher Kimball'"> <chrisvkimball at msn.com>, "'Pantera List Serve'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <S606898AbYCNBHO/20080314010717Z+1327 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > And it's right in our own bloody back yard! Does anyone in the NW know> where exactly in Kirkland this thing is? Talk about something in need of a> rescue. Love the suicide doors.> Mike Thomas> Panteras Northwest > > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Mark McWhinney> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:15 PM> To: 'Christopher Kimball'; 'Pantera List Serve'> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Italian Checker> > > > "In April 2005, curiosity got the better of a meter reader working in> Kirkland, Washington. He'd seen something obscured by evergreen branches in> a customer's backyard for a few months and just had to know what lay> underneath. Definitely something precious enough to warrant keeping> around--after all, nobody had called the junkman to come haul it away, and> the car hadn't moved for 30 years--but at the same time, not worth enough to> the owner to at least cover it with a tarp, let alone stick it in a garage."> > Got to pay to read the rest ...> > http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2008/02/01/hmn_feature8.html> > > You can see Tom Tjaarda at the bottom left of the page.> > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:54 PM> To: Pantera List Serve> Subject: [DeTomaso] The Italian Checker> > > Check out an interesting article starting on page 24 of the February issue> of Hemming's Classic Car magazine.> > It describes a Ghia Centurian which was shown at the 1968 Paris Auto Show.> The car was produced by Alejandro de Tomaso designed by Tom Tjaarda and was> built on a Checker chassis, of all things.> > The article is fascinating and even mentions Panteras!> > If you can find a copy it's a great read.> > Chris> #3846> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:15:35 -0700> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Italian Checker> To: "'Garth Rodericks'" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>,> <detomaso at realbig.com>, <chrisvkimball at msn.com>> Message-ID: <S606914AbYCNBNb/20080314011342Z+146 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > We need to put an article in profiles on this one. I see from the video> that it has been restored.> Mike > > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Garth Rodericks> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:11 PM> To: detomaso at realbig.com; chrisvkimball at msn.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] The Italian Checker> > Here's a video featuring a 67 Ghia Centurion, the same car featured in the> Hemmings article I believe:> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKUO4M_2qSs> > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it> now.> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 9> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:18:08 -0700 (PDT)> From: Scott Couchman <scottcouchman at yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints> To: Pantera Forum <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <445654.96122.qm at web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > I'm planning to buy this set of A-arm suspension bushings and ball joints to replace the original parts in my 72 at the same time I replace the springs/shocks with a set of Aldan Eagles.> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190206101736&ih=009&category=6755> > Anyone have any experience with these 'Maserati parts' either positive or negative?? Thanks> > > ---------------------------------> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> > ------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:38:37 -0700 (PDT)> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Very Bling Bling NOS TCI aluminum 351C harmonic> damper on ebay (cheap?)> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <527407.43699.qm at web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > Looks nice :> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320225948732> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 11> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:46:16 -0400> From: clay willmott <claywillmott at hotmail.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Heater valve Rebuild> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <BLU115-W56808D16CA38E43F54B42C40A0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > > Anyone know off hand where the rubber o ring gasket and internal plastic/rubber stopper can be purchased or is it easier to get a new heater valve? I thought there may be a rebuild kit available.> > My heater valve has FORD stamped on it and part numbers 67 PG and 8495A-A.> > Thanks> > Clay> > > > _________________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> > ------------------------------> > Message: 12> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:57:29 -0500> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Heater valve Rebuild> To: "clay willmott" <claywillmott at hotmail.com>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <003401c88576$c301cf50$0402a8c0 at OFFICE>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Dear Clay,> > When I rebuilt my valves ages ago, I seem to recall that all > that was needed was an o ring, which was available locally at the Ace > Hardware store. I don't know of a rebuild kit and I doubt that one exists, > as "rebuilding" it is basically a simple disassemble-clean- replace O > ring-add waterproof grease and reassemble process. I will see if I can > find the tech article on rebuilding them and send it to you.> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "clay willmott" <claywillmott at hotmail.com>> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:46 PM> Subject: [DeTomaso] Heater valve Rebuild> > > > > Anyone know off hand where the rubber o ring gasket and internal > plastic/rubber stopper can be purchased or is it easier to get a new heater > valve? I thought there may be a rebuild kit available.> > My heater valve has FORD stamped on it and part numbers 67 PG and 8495A-A.> > Thanks> > Clay> > > > _________________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star > power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG.> Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 > 1:27 PM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 13> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:06:24 EDT> From: Pantera74L at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Any Washington D.C. area Panteras out there?> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com, markushgroup at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <d22.1f088377.350b37a0 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > Mike is right Cal - I have the only Pantera with DC tags. Give me a shout > when you get settled. I live around Dupont Circle and my cell is (202) > 491-3653. Larry> > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 14> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:09:21 -0400> From: tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>> Subject: [DeTomaso] What ever happened to...> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <MPEHJINIOBDLDJFHOIEFCEMADMAA.tonydigi at optonline.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > ...Mike Dailey? I can't remember the last time I saw a posting reminding me> that "the answer can be found at panteraplace.com"> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 15> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:42:45 -0400> From: tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Elephant Ears> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <MPEHJINIOBDLDJFHOIEFEEMDDMAA.tonydigi at optonline.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > Got myself a set of elephant ears. Have heard several stories of them> blowing out of the window frame at speed. Before I start fabricating my own> method of positive retention, anybody care to share their success here?> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 16> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:43:04 -0600> From: Dave Doddek <pantera at pobox.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Breakin lube> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20080313204304.00b98790 at mail.mtco.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Before I started using moly lube, I for years used STP. The stuff is very> sticky and is loaded with Zinc which protects the cam from scuffing.> > Dave "Never lost a cam" D> > At 02:51 PM 3/13/2008 EDT, you wrote:> >In a message dated 3/12/08 2:05:34 PM, wdemelo at cogeco.ca writes:> >> >> What is recommended for lifter/cam lube during installation?> >> > >Coat each lifter and cam lobe with some sort of high-load grease (NOT> chassis > >grease!). I use Isky Cam Lube which looks like a moly-paste but may have > >extra stuff in it as well. Use plenty; most cam lobe/lifter failures occur> in the > >1st 5 minutes of running a new cam & lifters. If using stock valves, also> use > >a stock cam, lifters & springs, all of which combine to valve-float at> rpms > >below that which normally causes valve failure. Or throw in a rev-limiter> set > >to about 5200 rpms and warn your customer not to change chips without > >chaniging all the other stuff.Good luck- J DeRyke> >> >> >**************> >It's Tax Time! Get > >tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance.> > > >(http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> >_______________________________________________> >> >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> >Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> >DeTomaso mailing list> >DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> >http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 17> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:54:44 -0700> From: <rimov at charter.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Very Bling Bling NOS TCI aluminum 351C> harmonic damper on ebay (cheap?)> To: DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> Message-ID: <20080313225444.UL9OU.382600.root at fepweb15>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > > ---- {0} wrote: > > Looks nice :> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320225948732> > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 18> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:56:24 -0400> From: <rimov at charter.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Very Bling Bling NOS TCI aluminum 351C> harmonic damper on ebay (cheap?)> To: DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> Message-ID: <20080313225624.LI9GK.382658.root at fepweb15>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > > > Pretty nice looking Pcar even if it is yelllow. Any one know this car.> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1974-DETOMASO-PANTERA-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-GARAGE-KEPT_W0QQitemZ230230922738QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6472QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 19> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:13:18 -0700> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball> Joints> To: "'Scott Couchman'" <scottcouchman at yahoo.com>, "'Pantera Forum'"> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <S607080AbYCNDLP/20080314031126Z+1218 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Have not dealt with them myself but recall previous posts from folks asking> about this source and there were nothing but good comments.> Mike> > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Scott Couchman> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:18 PM> To: Pantera Forum> Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints> > I'm planning to buy this set of A-arm suspension bushings and ball joints to> replace the original parts in my 72 at the same time I replace the> springs/shocks with a set of Aldan Eagles.> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190206101736&i> h=009&category=6755> > Anyone have any experience with these 'Maserati parts' either positive or> negative?? Thanks> > > ---------------------------------> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 20> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:34:07 -0700> From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Yellow P on eBay> To: <rimov at charter.net>> Cc: List <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAh9db6i38QEyhutFLk7RrJcKAAAAQAAAAMdvyNrsaAE6zNiLIphLdCgEAAAAA at sbcglobal.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"> > > Paul,> > Not to sound like a broken record, but did you check the Registry?> > (www.ProvaMo.com)> > > #6423:> > It was offered for sale in 2005, out of Scottsdale Arizona > (Az plate 044 NFP), (By AzSpecialities ?)> with 17" wheels (nice tires too) and the stock seats, > which were covered to match the current tan interior.> The owner's phone number was listed, his name is Cliff.> > It had 4,808 miles since the restoration back then. (Not driven much since.)> > The car looks very similar, with some minor changes on the engine, etc.> > The interior had the faux carbon fiber interior back then also.> > My notes show that with <2 days to go bidding was up to 17K, and had not met> reserve, sorry no final sales price.> > So I guess there is less history available on this specific car.> > I would say is seems very nice and well taken care of.> > Chuck> > > > > Pretty nice looking Pcar even if it is yelllow. Any one know this car.> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1974-DETOMASO-PANTERA-EXCELLENT-C> ONDITION-GARAGE-KEPT_W0QQitemZ230230922738QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6472QQssPageNam> eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008> 11:31 AM> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008> 11:31 AM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 21> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:37:37 -0700> From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Yellow P on eBay> To: <rimov at charter.net>> Cc: 'List' <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAh9db6i38QEyhutFLk7RrJcKAAAAQAAAA/NHrJAxhFUi7iZ+Si9DajwEAAAAA at sbcglobal.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"> > OOOOps, typo... Make the 2005 bidding number $27,100 with 2 days to go.> > Chuck> > > > Paul,> > Not to sound like a broken record, but did you check the Registry?> > (www.ProvaMo.com)> > > #6423:> > It was offered for sale in 2005, out of Scottsdale Arizona > (Az plate 044 NFP), (By AzSpecialities ?)> with 17" wheels (nice tires too) and the stock seats, > which were covered to match the current tan interior.> The owner's phone number was listed, his name is Cliff.> > It had 4,808 miles since the restoration back then. (Not driven much since.)> > The car looks very similar, with some minor changes on the engine, etc.> > The interior had the faux carbon fiber interior back then also.> > My notes show that with <2 days to go bidding was up to 17K, and had not met> reserve, sorry no final sales price.> > So I guess there is less history available on this specific car.> > I would say is seems very nice and well taken care of.> > Chuck> > > > > Pretty nice looking Pcar even if it is yelllow. Any one know this car.> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1974-DETOMASO-PANTERA-EXCELLENT-C> ONDITION-GARAGE-KEPT_W0QQitemZ230230922738QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6472QQssPageNam> eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008> 11:31 AM> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008> 11:31 AM> > > _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008> 11:31 AM> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008> 11:31 AM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 22> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:53:11 -0500> From: "Will Kooiman" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball> Joints> To: "'Mike Thomas'" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, "'Scott Couchman'"> <scottcouchman at yahoo.com>, "'Pantera Forum'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <008601c8858f$4e8118c0$6501a8c0 at LORETTA>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > I've bought from them before. They were very professional.> > I like the Quella style bushings better, though. I don't mean to do a free> plug for Dennis, but his bushings have the hex shaft in the center. They> allow the a-arm to rotate w/out binding. They do not squeek and they're> easy to install, once you get the old bushings out. I believe they're also> advertised in Profiles under the Collector Car ad.> > Of course, if you want the original style bushings, that's understandable.> Will.> > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Mike Thomas> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:13 PM> To: 'Scott Couchman'; 'Pantera Forum'> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints> > Have not dealt with them myself but recall previous posts from folks asking> about this source and there were nothing but good comments.> Mike> > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Scott Couchman> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:18 PM> To: Pantera Forum> Subject: [DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball Joints> > I'm planning to buy this set of A-arm suspension bushings and ball joints to> replace the original parts in my 72 at the same time I replace the> springs/shocks with a set of Aldan Eagles.> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190206101736&i> h=009&category=6755> > Anyone have any experience with these 'Maserati parts' either positive or> negative?? 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Search.> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 23> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:15:12 -0700> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Heater valve Rebuild> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>, clay willmott> <claywillmott at hotmail.com>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <BLU136-W16C415FE515D355D7603DBBC0A0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > My heater valve was a bit different than what I saw on the forum a while back, but I did find the place to order the gasket I needed,, but it has been on back order for months now. I lost patience and ended up buying a valve for a '70's AMC AMX (I believe). I used hoses and hose clamps to put it in place of the original and it works great with no leaks.> > Chris> #3846> > > From: cengles at cox.net> > To: claywillmott at hotmail.com> > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:57:29 -0500> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Heater valve Rebuild> > > > Dear Clay,> > > > When I rebuilt my valves ages ago, I seem to recall that all > > that was needed was an o ring, which was available locally at the Ace > > Hardware store. I don't know of a rebuild kit and I doubt that one exists, > > as "rebuilding" it is basically a simple disassemble-clean- replace O > > ring-add waterproof grease and reassemble process. I will see if I can > > find the tech article on rebuilding them and send it to you.> > > > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "clay willmott" <claywillmott at hotmail.com>> > To: <detomaso at realbig.com>> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:46 PM> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Heater valve Rebuild> > > > > > > > > > Anyone know off hand where the rubber o ring gasket and internal > > plastic/rubber stopper can be purchased or is it easier to get a new heater > > valve? I thought there may be a rebuild kit available.> > > > My heater valve has FORD stamped on it and part numbers 67 PG and 8495A-A.> > > > Thanks> > > > Clay> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> > Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star > > power.> > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG.> > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 > > 1:27 PM> > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 24> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:50:50 -0700> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Article> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>> Cc: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <47DA123A.2090203 at emspace.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Thanks for replaying this.> I have no experience with Ford comp. engines and couldn't grasp why the > 351C community was so rev-averse.> I pretty well get it now.> dave> > > -- > Dave Londry> Embedded Spaces Inc. (ESI)> davel at emspace.com> > 604 721 2278 cell> 604 589 9183 phone/fax> Skype:embeddedspaces> > > > Charles Engles wrote:> > Re: ArticleDear Rod and Larry,> >> >> > I like this commentary approach to the engine topic.> >> >> > My two cents worth, Chuck Engles> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Larry Stock > > To: Rod Kunishige ; Steve POCA Wilkinson ; Art Stephens ; Charles POCA Engles ; pantera at pim.net ; pocaprez at yahoogroups.com ; peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net ; panteraparts77 at sbcglobal.net ; dave at motorspot.com ; rndbrit at earthlink.net ; jderyke at aol.com ; mikeldrew at aol.com ; jasont at sema.org ; george at panteracars.com ; gr8kat at ocpanteras.com ; pantera007 at sbcglobal.net > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:03 PM> > Subject: Re: Article> >> >> > 1973 351C Mods> > > > The mystery surrounding this motor has led me to find out some points about this four-year production engine. It started in the fall of 1969 ending in 1974 model year. Some may remember the 1974 Cougar I once stored in order to safe guard its 351C 2V. Others will recall that I currently run a spare 1974 351C 2V in my 73 Pantera while its original 351C 4V awaits rebuild (a casualty of a POCA Las Vegas open track event).> >> > The AUSSIE 351 Block is a heavier cast version of the Cleveland block so you don't see the cylinder bore flex that you get in high horsepower thin wall Cleveland blocks. > > .....and there are two kinds of Aussie blocks. The true heavy version intended for race purposes and few in number. The other one is described as an Aussie (true) 351C block (true) with high nickel content (true), which is better and stronger than domestic 351Cs (not true). The ordinary and commonly available Aussie blocks are essentially the standard block with a high nickel content, which is harder, but not necessarily stronger than an ordinary Cleveland block.> >> >> > Let's ignore the famous 351 Windsor engine to focus on Ford's successor to the Cleveland --- the much heavier 400M whose 1972 introduction uses a taller deck, wider profile and big block (429/460) bell housing pattern. This block was destroked to yield the 351M in 1975, which barely overcomes its weight disadvantage.> > > > The Cleveland's most noted feature is its heads. Early 351C 4V heads have wedge chambers, monster ports and valves measuring 2.19 intake and 1.71 exhaust designed for big blocks. The design stems from SCCA Trans Am winner of 1969 as they rested atop the very high-revving BOSS 302s with oversized 2.23 intakes. BOSS 302s for 70 were reduced to our 2.19". The closed quench style chambers were opened in 1972. This massive flow characteristic gives us poor street performance but an outstanding one on race courses demanding high revs in the 7,000+ range. To take advantage of this, a stroker of 377 to 408 is needed to provide enough volume and revs. 351 2V heads have smaller ports, open chambers, 2.04 intakes and 1.67 exhaust valves found in the long gone Cougar and my current Pantera. High performance SB Chevys would love to have our 4V size valves compared to their 2.02/1.60s. And, I found one drag race 350 Chevy modified to mount the Ford Cleveland head in San Mateo in an effort beat Jack Roush's lowly 351C Tijuana Taxi Maverick. 2Vs offer great gobs of low end torque but limits the high end. The Aussie 351 heads uses the 4V wedge chambers with the smaller 2V ports to give us both excellent flow and burn characteristics more in keeping with the 351 cubic inches and bottom end construction so limited in most Fords with their oiling, rods and crank shortcomings.> > > > So what's this all mean? For the 2V heads engine seeking more, consider the Aussie heads. These 302 and 352 Aussie have the smaller wedge chambers with the 2V 2.02/1.65 valves. Our 2V heads tend to cause detonation problems. The 4V heads need more displacement and higher spin capability (7,500-8,000) than stock so check out a stroker with a forged crank, longer rod length, and stronger connecting rods. But be sure to have your block sonic tested to insure proper wall thickness. Use push rod guide plates and screw-in adjustable studs to steady your valve train regardless of heads. Eye the single plane intake manifolds for track and dual plane for street. > >> > A common modification to do to the 2V heads is to re-cut the valve seats for 4V valves. What people forget to do is to open up the chamber to help unshroud the intakes.> >> > There is no discussion about roller rockers or lifter ratio's, but then there is no discussion about camshaft design either.> >> > There is also no discussion here about ignition timing or water pump cooling design.> >> > Edelbrock Performer for 2V and 4V yield good low end torque and work well on the high end making them a fit for street use. If you modify the dual plane, make sure that you cut no deeper than an inch. Their Torker is a single plane designed for drag and road racing. Older designs are from Offenhauser, Weiand, Holman/Moody and Ford.> >> > Arguably the best single plane manifold built for the Iron Head 4V Cleveland's was the Holly Strip Dominator while for the 2V Holly built the Street Dominator Intake.> >> > I am familiar with the 4V Holley Strip Dominator, but I don't recall a similar reputation for the 2V Street Dominator Intake. When I discussed this with Dan Jones, I recall that his recommendation for 2V heads was (mostly...) the Weiand Xclerator Intake. Is the Street Dominator really that good?> >> >> > The following information is largely from Muscle: Mini or Maxi by Fred Freel in Petersen's Complete Ford Book printed in 1973.> > > > Those of you who have found the Boss 302 (Part # D1ZV-6010-B), Boss 351 (D1ZZ-D), 351 Cobra-Jet and some 400C blocks with 4 bolt mains, have a strong foundation for mods. But two bolt mains can accommodate considerable abuse with mods of their own.> > > > There are four Boss type heads from which to select. Two are from the Boss 302 and two for 351C. The best heads to use are the 1970 Boss 302s. We need only drill a 11/16" hole in the deck for the Cleveland water passage using its gasket as guide. These have small 57cc chambers and mate to either the original Windsor block or the 351C to raise their compression. Ratios are expected to be 9.44:1 for 289, 8.97 for 302 and 11.62 for 351C/W. For lower Cleveland compression figures, select the Boss 351 for 9.5:1. > > > > You can use Dished Pistons to reduce the compression, or adjust the piston deck height to increase or reduce the compression ratio. It is OK to go for a positive deck height so the piston is actually invading the gasket clearance area. > > Or you could actually measure the volume of the combustion chambers and proceed to calculate the actual static compression ratio. One would then absolutely know what the C.R. is and proceed to make any changes in various components as noted by Larry, above.> >> > > > Head Part # Application Min-Max cc In./Ex. > > D10Z-6049B 302-351W 58.9-61.9 1.84/1.54 Lrg ports & valves > > D0ZZ-A 302-400 57.2-60.2 2.19/1.71 Lrg ports w/small chamber > > C9ZZ-D (right) 302-400 61.3-64.3 2.23/1.71 Lrg chamber, extra lrg valves > > D0ZZ-B (left) 302-400 61.3-64.3 2.23/1.71 Lrg chamber, extra lrg valves > > D1AZ-A 351C-400 76.9-79.9 2.04/1.65 Sm ports, valves, open chamber > > D1AZ-B 351C-400 64.6-67.6 2.19/1.71 Lrg ports, valves, hydraulic cam > > D1ZZ-B 351C-400 64.6-67.6 2.19/1.71 Lrg ports, valves, mech cam > > D1ZZ-C 351C-400 73.9-76.9 2.19/1.71 Lrg ports, open chamber, hydraulic cam > > D2ZZ-A 351C-400 73.9-76.9 2.19/1.71 Lrg ports, open chamber, mech cam > > > > Cranks come in three main bearing diameters; 289-302, 351C and 351W-400C. Only stock forged crank is the Boss 302 with 3" stroke. All stock 351Cs are cast. Remember, though, that the Boss 351 crank is a specially selected one at the Ford plant and is a bit stronger stock.> > > > Rods come in six stock sizes so the opportunity to tune your engine to your tastes is there---3 for 302 and 3 for 351. How about rod/stroke ratios of 1.90:1 like the old Chevy 283? This rod length divided by stroke is thought by some to be ideal. It allows very good high rpm without too much loss of low-end torque. High ratio yields top-end performance while low ratio give us better low and mid-range power. Boss 302 has a ratio of 1.72:1 and its brethren Boss 351 is in Steve Webster's recommended range of 1.6-1.7 at 1.65:1. The stock 351C is about 1.65. Big cube strokers often have ratios near 1.5; meaning they'll pull hard but not necessarily rev quickly. So, if you are going for a stroker engine, take the time to calculate the rod ratio. This will tell you how the engine is expected to respond to the right pedal.> > > > Chevy comparisons for us 57 Bel Air types have a rod ratio of 1.9 for both our 265 and 283 engines. They sing the very high notes with the right cam, valve train and light assembly. That's one of the reasons they faired well in early hot rodding days. Meanwhile my favorite 327 spins its crank using a 1.754 ratio. The hot revving Z28 TransAm 302 copies the Bel Airs at 1.9. SBC 350 move a reasonable 1.635 but the stock 400 pokes a leisurely 1.52 with tons of torque.> > > > I ran across two attractive ideas and I hope to use one or both of them as I rebuild my warmed track motor. The first is to insert a screw-in restrictor (from Ford SVO) between the main and cam bearing to cut excessive oil flow to the cam bearing leaving more for the mains. But if I use fast bleed lifters to reduce my hot cam lope, I'll have to pass on this fix. The second, is a Chevy racing trick used on their oil starved V6s. Here, the main bearing bores of the block section only are grooved .125" by .125" deep are made circumferentially across the oil feed hole for 180 degrees on the front set. The Chevy rear main groove of 135 degrees stops short of the main oil feed but intersect the oil feed hole from the cam bearing. The main upper bearing shells are drilled with four .125" holes to flow the extra oil. This places more oil at the ready for the main bearings. Keep in mind that the big boom stress is largely taken by the bearing cap not the block side. I think grooving all five 351 mains should leave more oil film on each pass.> > Chevy Rear Main Groove Leaving Main Oil Hole 4 .125" Holes Added to Block Shells> >> > We use 2 sets of main rod bearings, grooved and ungrooved. We place the grooved side on the cap side to oil up on the up stroke cycle and use the full face bearing for the power side against the rod.> >> > > > I'll check the crank for cross drilling to further insure oil coverage while is block is being prepped.> > > > The same publication speaks to the need to replace Shelby's own FIA 289 Cobra's tired engine with a new one. Mike McClusky, who maintained Shelby's fleet, chose a 72 Boss 351 to do the job. It was balanced, cc'd, valves lightened and triple-angle cut. The foot wells were notched because the big engine was set lower and 10% back to improve handling. Custom headers were fashioned while the dual point distributor added the needed spark. Beefed up C4 made effective launches. Remember too that the much maligned C4 uses the same design as the C6, FMX and Turbos but do require a simple mod. Removing a spring makes Falcon units shift us crisply into the Galaxies beyond.> > > > Also featured was the Wayne Gapp and Jack Roush Pro Stock Pinto. It turned e.t.s in the low 9s with a 73 Cleveland as motive power through Lenco to the 5.57 cogs. It reminded me of Phyllis' 73 Pinto wagon but she had a single lever 4 speed and taller gears.> > > > As I learn more about this engine, I am more disappointment at Ford's lack of foresight. It truly should have continued to develop it. Little things like strengthening the bottom end, addressing the oiling problem, making lighter rotating assemblies, higher reving valve action and improving the port routing for tighter flows would have taken away the opportunities from aftermarket suppliers. The engine has plenty of torque and just needs to rev dependably to a much higher redline.> > > > Or, maybe they did. Meanwhile, does anyone have porting drawings for the 4V and 2V heads? Send it to me.> > > > Rod Kunishige TPOC May 2006 rev March 12, 2008> > > >> >> > On 3/12/08 9:45 AM, "Rod Kunishige" <rkunishige at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> >> > Folks,> > Much of the forum speaks to mods. Here is an offering that outlines some mods to the 351C. Most importantly is the issue centered around the lack of oil in our blocks. The later section speaks to it and suggests an alternative to consider. Chevy performance engines do use this trick for duty applications in both v6 and v8s.> > I do hope that one of you will take this idea a one for Pantera guys to think about. I don't recall the oil section as a published item.> >> > Steve W,> > I'd love to have you comments on this.> > > > Rod> >> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! <http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008> > >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 3/10/2008 7:27 PM> > _______________________________________________> >> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 25> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:08:16 EDT> From: SOBill at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Replacement Suspension Bushings and Ball> Joints> To: scottcouchman at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <d4d.17c217e6.350b7050 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > > Scott,> > I bought a set from this seller several months ago.> > They are identical to parts I bought from Wilkinson.> > The seller delivered as promised.> > No complaints.> > SOBill Taylor> sobill at aol.com > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 26> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:16:20 EDT> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Elephant Ears> To: tonydigi at optonline.net, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <c15.ce9a715.350b7234 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > In a message dated 3/13/08 6:43:46 PM, tonydigi at optonline.net writes:> > > Before I start fabricating my own method of positive retention, anybody > > care to share their success here?> > > > The elephant-ear scops only start scooping air inward above about 140 mph- > below that, air seems to come out of them into the side airstream. Guys screw > them to the rear quarter-window frames, forgetting that the frames are only a > slip-fit into the body. So you also need a couple of screws throught the > chrome frames into the body, if you actually intend to go fast enough to make them > work. Good luck- J DeRyke> > > > **************> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance.> (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 27> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:19:34 -0400> From: "Will Demelo" <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>> Subject: [DeTomaso] El Pantero> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <051901c885bc$e8ad0c60$2d2f8d18 at D58FR581>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > http://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/fiero/showThread.cgi?forum=1&thread=043414&style=printable> > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 44, Issue 14> ****************************************
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