[DeTomaso] Radiator Filler/Expansion Tank ?

Dave Londry davel at emspace.com
Wed Jun 18 18:32:51 EDT 2008


Hey I was wondering too.
I looked in Mark's ME Handbook but it was pretty vague.
The steam guys from Oz have it down though.
http://www.steamengine.com.au/misc/tubing/index.html
dave

Barry Seib wrote:
> Thanks Bill
> I wanted to use the 1 1/4 copper for the tubes that need bends in them. I
> already have the two long SS tubes, but I need to make new ones to connect
> my new "dirt track" rad and my "Mike Trusty design" engine tubes. Just can't
> find any in short lengths. The plumbing wholesalers won't cut a full roll
> and I can't find a cvontractor that has any left over to sell me !
> Are you going to try and bend the tube or use cast fittings for bends? I'd
> rather bend them if I could get soft copper so the bends wouldn't be as
> sharp. Hmm,... I wonder if we could anneal the hard suff ?
> Barry
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: SOBill at aol.com [mailto:SOBill at aol.com]
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:06 PM
>   To: oldwheel at mts.net
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Filler/Expansion Tank ?
>
>
>   Barry,
>
>   I am using 1 1/4 ID x 1 3/8 OD hard copper tubing I got at Home Depot.
>
>   I got into the copper because:
>
>   1) My OEM tubes were pretty well wasted and also tended to hit the front
> roll bar.
>
>   2) I needed to make new tubes to clear the power steering rack I am
> installing.
>
>   3) Someday I may lay the radiator half way down and I would need to make a
> second set of tubes for the front end. I wanted to use something available,
> easy, and cheap.
>
>   4) I want to replace the long tubes under the chassis and add drains to
> the tubes.
>
>   I have a bead rolling tool which certainly isn't for use on 1/8 inch thick
> hard copper. But by upping the roller pressure a little bit at a time, it
> rolled beautiful beads. You can also make good bead equivalents by soldering
> small gauge solid copper electrical wire to the tubes. The bead is a
> mechanical stop for the hose camps and doesn't need to be a water seal. See
> the attached pic.
>
>   Let me know what you do.
>
>   Have fun,
>
>   SOBill Taylor
>   sobill at aol.com
>
>   In a message dated 6/18/2008 10:43:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> oldwheel at mts.net writes:
>     Hi Bill
>     I'm using the Mike Trusty/John Taphorn cooling system mod. so need some
> new
>     tubes too.
>     I wanted to use copper for the custom tubes between my engine and the
> long
>     straight SS tubes I have, but after searching for a year, I can not find
>     anyone to sell me less than a full roll of soft drawn 1 1/4" copper
> pipe. It
>     is about $1000 for a full roll of 66ft. Even the hard copper pipe is
> hard to
>     find in 1 1/4" size and the fittings aren't very common either. Did you
> find
>     a source for it there? Are you using hard or soft copper pipe?
>     Barry
>
>
>     [DeTomaso] Radiator Filler/Expansion Tank ?
>     SOBill at aol.com SOBill at aol.com
>     Wed Jun 18 11:18:00 CDT 2008
>
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>
>     Garth,
>
>     I have heard those concerns also.
>
>     I don't think the main cooling tubes can radiate or conduct much  heat
> into
>     the interior.
>
>     I am going convert the heater tubes to copper also and reroute them
> under
>     the car and straight up to the heater. In the engine compartment, I will
>     attach
>     the copper tubes to the back of firewall and use only two short  rubber
>     hoses
>     to connect tubes to the engine.
>
>     Have fun,
>
>     SOBill  Taylor
>     sobill at aol.com
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