[DeTomaso] FW: Lay down rad or -WHY DO YOU NEED COOLING FANS???

Mad Dog Antenucci teampantera at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 15 16:14:57 EDT 2008


Bingo Dave -  Fluidyne oil to water cooler (heat exchanger). I should also let JT or Dick speak to modifying the lines. Just one small surge tank replaced the two bottles.

Steve Hawkins <shawkins777 at comcast.net> wrote:  
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Londry [mailto:davel at emspace.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:09 PM
To: Asa Jay Laughton
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lay down rad or -WHY DO YOU NEED COOLING FANS???


Maybe you want to ask about the oil cooler.
A good one unloads the cooling system quite a bit.
dave

Asa Jay Laughton wrote: 

C'mon Dawg, you have to be fair here, you need to tell us what you have 

for a water pump, lines, sizes, overflow tanks, pressure tank, cap style 

and pressure, thermostat, etc.  They -all- contribute to an efficient 

system.



Which brings me to another question....  Anybody got a set of tanks they 

want to part with?



Asa Jay



Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired



& Shelley Marie

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Mad Dog Antenucci wrote:

  

Thanks Ken but Mike't logic is based on the same old List misinformation.
And that is if hasn't been invented or redesigned on the List it must not or
can not work.



And as far as engine failures are concerned its just more misinformation. I
haven't grenaded an engine since 2000.  Yea, I've lost a dist. sheer pin in
2004 and a pully belt in 2005 but Russ Fulps engines have been golden
through open track and street use and no one has completed more open road
races then I have with Russ Fulps engines...no one has even come close and I
suspect no one ever will.....okay maybe after I'm dead ;-]>



The only reason I asked Russ to rebuild the engine  the end of 2007 was
because we were adding the IR-EFI. Mike Trusty and Dick Drenske dialing in
the engine at a stand still never had an overheating condition. And we never
had an overheating condition on the street or on the track or in open road
racing...again measured with new gauges and thermal gun.  



I think the hood vents help reduce lift and may even reduce front end lift
and wot temps in open road racing but they don't provide any assist in stop
and go traffic.   



Ken Green    wrote:  

 Mike,

  

 I understand that what Dennis has seen is very unexpected, but I don't
think he's had an engine failure for a while, and he's watching both water
and oil temp.  If the water temp gauge was that far off, it's hard to
believe he'd also see a low oil temp.

  

 The only thing I can even stetch to suggest is that with hood vents to let
air rise through the radiator and out the vents, he's getting a convective
air flow even stationary.  Otherwise I have no idea why he's seeing what
he's seeing.  also, aluminum is a great heat conductor, and the radiator is
jammed in position, so maybe heat is also being conducted into the body?

  

 Ken

  

  

  

 

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, MikeLDrew at aol.com  
 wrote:      
Sounds like a certain knucklhead doggie has an inoperative water temperature


gauge; perhaps that's why his motors are so short-lived?



Any car, any radiator, will overheat without airflow over the radiator.
You 

could hang Lake Michigan off the front of your car, and let it idle for a
few 

minutes and it will overheat without airflow.



Mike





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