[DeTomaso] Lay down rad or -WHY DO YOU NEED COOLING FANS???

Mad Dog Antenucci teampantera at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 14 00:38:40 EDT 2008


Thanks Ken but Mike't logic is based on the same old List misinformation. And that is if hasn't been invented or redesigned on the List it must not or can not work.

And as far as engine failures are concerned its just more misinformation. I haven't grenaded an engine since 2000.  Yea, I've lost a dist. sheer pin in 2004 and a pully belt in 2005 but Russ Fulps engines have been golden through open track and street use and no one has completed more open road races then I have with Russ Fulps engines...no one has even come close and I suspect no one ever will.....okay maybe after I'm dead ;-]>

The only reason I asked Russ to rebuild the engine  the end of 2007 was because we were adding the IR-EFI. Mike Trusty and Dick Drenske dialing in the engine at a stand still never had an overheating condition. And we never had an overheating condition on the street or on the track or in open road racing...again measured with new gauges and thermal gun.  

I think the hood vents help reduce lift and may even reduce front end lift and wot temps in open road racing but they don't provide any assist in stop and go traffic.   

Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:  
 Mike,
  
 I understand that what Dennis has seen is very unexpected, but I don't think he's had an engine failure for a while, and he's watching both water and oil temp.  If the water temp gauge was that far off, it's hard to believe he'd also see a low oil temp.
  
 The only thing I can even stetch to suggest is that with hood vents to let air rise through the radiator and out the vents, he's getting a convective air flow even stationary.  Otherwise I have no idea why he's seeing what he's seeing.  also, aluminum is a great heat conductor, and the radiator is jammed in position, so maybe heat is also being conducted into the body?
  
 Ken
  
  
  
 
--- On Fri, 6/13/08, MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:

 From: MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lay down rad or -WHY DO YOU NEED COOLING FANS???
To: teampantera at yahoo.com, red3644 at hotmail.com, JDeRyke at aol.com, wdemelo at cogeco.ca, detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 7:36 PM


In a message dated 6/13/08 13 32 9, teampantera at yahoo.com writes:


>   
>   I want to hear one person explain on this List why anyone needs cooling

> fans or shrouds IF they have a well designed cooling system with an
adequate 
> flow of water??????????
> 

Sounds like a certain knucklhead doggie has an inoperative water temperature 
gauge; perhaps that's why his motors are so short-lived?

Any car, any radiator, will overheat without airflow over the radiator.   You 
could hang Lake Michigan off the front of your car, and let it idle for a few 
minutes and it will overheat without airflow.

Mike


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