[DeTomaso] Crazy Vette People

Fri Jul 11 11:29:18 EDT 2008

With the increased popularity of restoring cars in general the cost for 
parts and labor has also skyrocketed and like wise a lot of shops feel they 
too should be paid more with the increased value of vinatage cars. With 
regard to powdercoating the wheels I would be very specific about what you 
want the finish to look like with the powdercoater. Magnesium tend to gas 
out while baking turning the silver powder coats bluish in appearance. Also 
using too much material or the wrong sheen of clearcoat will also affect the 
final appearance. Experienced powder coaters are familiar with this and will 
use one of several techniques to achieve the desired appearance of the 
wheels when powder coating magnesium wheels.

Cheers

Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Will Kooiman" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>
To: "'Ian H'" <ihannington286720mi at comcast.net>; "'panteras'" 
<detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crazy Vette People

> That's funny.
>
> You can buy 8" campy's already powdercoated from Hall for $250 each.
>
> Tell him you'll make him a deal - he can have the car and the wheels for
> $70K.  He can sell the car for $80K and make $10K profit.
>
> Then - go buy another Pantera - and a Corvette.
>
> Will.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Ian H
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:01 PM
> To: 'panteras'
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Crazy Vette People
>
> I have a long wacky story for you guys.........
>
> About five years ago I had a set of 10 and 7 inch Campys that were in
> desperate need of refinishing and I was looking for someone to do the 
> work.
> At some point I met a guy at a car show who had a business restoring
> Corvettes and he was a quarter mile down the street from my office.  So, I
> asked him if he'd be interested in painting my wheels and he said "Bring
> them by I'd be happy to".  So  I did and we agreed on a price of  $400 for
> all four.   He did the work and they turned out great, I had no problems, 
> I
> brought my car up there and he just loved it, ect.
>
> Fast forward to  few weeks ago.
> I bought a set of 8's to replace the 7's and naturally I thought I'd take
> them back to my old friend the Vette restorer.  He said he'd be happy to
> paint up the new wheels.  We chatted for a while, he asked about my car, 
> how
> much I paid for the wheels.........  I told him my Pantera was doing just
> fine and I bought the wheels for around $200.  "Wow!  You got a great deal
> those wheels are worth about a grand a piece" He said.  I told him they 
> were
> only worth about $400 tops refinished.  "You'd be suprised" He said.  Ok,
> whatever.  He also felt my car was worth $80-100,000 by now.  "No, $45 
> maybe
> 50 at the outside" I said.  "You'd be 
> suprised"...................Whatever,
> Pal.
>
> Fast forward to today.
> I get an email estimate to paint the two 8's........................
> $1100!!!!!!!  WTF!!!!!!  So I ran down there at lunch.  He says, "Let me 
> get
> you the contract to sign,"  I say, No I am here to pick the wheels up.  So
> he gets all pissy and takes me back in the shop and says "Look at these
> wheels, I have to spend a lot of time fixing all these pits, the price of
> paint is more since last time, the price of gas is...........Blah, blah,
> blah!  I can't let you put them on an $80,000 car with those pits, these
> wheels a worth the effort and expense!"
> "Ok, first of all those pits are pretty minor, and as far as campys go 
> these
> are in real good shape.  Secondly, my car is worth about $45K and the 
> wheels
> are only worth about $400, so how can I justify spending $1300 on $400
> wheels?"  I ask
>
> "Oh, so now you calling me a liar?!" he says.
>
> "No, I'm not, you're just misinformed, they are only worth what I said and 
> I
> think you are trying to charge me extra based on some wildy inflated value
> that you came up with.  Shouldn't you be basing your price on the time and
> cost of materials?
>
> "Oh, so now I am a dishonest businessman?!  Well take you F'ng piece of 
> #$%^
> wheels and get the F out of here, AND DON'T EVER COME BACK!"
>
> ..............Uh, ok pal, no problem there!!!
>
> On the way back to my office, I called a powder coater who a met through
> Dana Hansen of Mangusta International 
> fame............................Price
> to media blast and powdercoat...........$75 per wheel!!!!
>
> So, the only thing I can think of to explain all this is WAY too much
> exposure to fibergass fumes!!!!!!!
>
> I'm still shocked,
>
> Ian
>
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