[DeTomaso] ZDDP Oil additive at Eastwood

[David in Durango]

My research showed Rotella w/ the "sm" (old formula) or GTX 2050 have about 
the correct % of zinc.

I'd be happy to see new research with new samples and new (or not) results.

"mostly" my opinion, but i did check . . . .


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Londry" <davel at emspace.com>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZDDP Oil additive at Eastwood


> Just to stir it up a bit more - this a the line from the Mobil 1
> standard product summary chart.
>
> Mobil 1 15W-50 - Boosted, higher viscosity, fully synthetic formula
> designed for performance vehicles
>                           - HT/HS applications.
>                           - Racing and Flat tappet applications.
>                           - SM approval
>                           - Phosphorous 1200ppm
>
> Which seems easier to find and less trouble to manage than Rotilla +
> ZDDP anyway.
> dave
>
> -- 
> Dave Londry
> Embedded Spaces Inc. (ESI)
>
>
>
> asajay at asajay.com wrote:
>> <Asa Jay Raises Hand>
>>
>> But only because I've not had time (or money) to build another engine
>> like what I have in the Mach I yet.  (though I was considering a
>> transplant the other day)  <Slap>  NO YOU WEREN'T!
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Dan Mixon <tipo874 at comcast.net>:
>>
>>
>>> Probably 90% of Pantera's still have flat tappet hydraulic cams.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Doug Braun
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:15 PM
>>> To: Mad Dog Antenucci; larry at ohiotimecorp.com; 'Charles Engles'
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZDDP Oil additive at Eastwood
>>>
>>> Whoa, M-Dog!  Did you miss your 6 o'clock bone last night?
>>>
>>> Adding ZDDP to today's oils for those who still have flat tappet
>>> cams in
>>> their Cleve's is just like adding a lead substitute to today's gas for 
>>> those
>>> of us with non-hardened valve seats.  You should be happy these products
>>> haven't been banned by the EPA (YET!).  At least this way, those 
>>> slackers
>>> without the budget for a rollerized and stellitized Russ Fulp engine can
>>> consider open road racing.
>>>
>>> You either need either some Puppy-Uppers or Doggy-Downers to chill out! 
>>> HA!
>>>
>>> Doug Braun
>>> blue 73L #5505
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:29 AM
>>> To: larry at ohiotimecorp.com; 'Charles Engles'
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZDDP Oil additive at Eastwood
>>>
>>>
>>> Slackers,
>>>
>>>   99% of you slackers ever go fast enough long enough to even need any
>>> special oil let alone ZDDPBS. Racing rice burners in a straight line for 
>>> 3
>>> blocks doesn't count.
>>>
>>>   What "YOU" need to do is get ONE of the TWO Pantera'S running that you
>>> own. ;-]>
>>>
>>>   WHAT Chris needs to do is get off the I-5 freeway or Aurora Ave on the 
>>> 3
>>> days a year its 90 in Seattle before 2 of his 3 fans fail. ;-]>
>>>
>>>   Mad Dawg
>>>
>>> Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>>>   Hey,
>>>
>>> Leave us flat world, flat lifters slackers alone. We need our 
>>> Zink(ZDDP).
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry (have a magic stick that makes water) - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:46 AM
>>> To: Charles Engles
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZDDP Oil additive at Eastwood
>>>
>>> Okay my friend...are you saying slackers don't need a roller or fuel
>>> injection? ;-]>
>>> Pleeeeaze!
>>>
>>> Send me 2 cases and one of those magic sticks to find water.
>>>
>>> Where's the aliens?
>>>
>>> Charles Engles wrote:
>>> Dear Dennis,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am sure you're aware of benefits of ZDDP oil additive
>>> despite the distractions of aero testing refinements and the higher 
>>> order
>>> mathematical permutations of fuel injection curves. For those of us that
>>> still use flat tappet camshafts and lifters the ZDDP works much, much 
>>> better
>>>
>>> than third cooling fans. I need to buy a case of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Flat tappets for a few more years until
>>> roller conversion, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mad Dog Antenucci"
>>> To: "Christopher Kimball" ;
>>> ; "DeTomaso Forum"
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZDDP Oil additive at Eastwood
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry, this makes as much sense as adding a 3rd cooling fan.
>>>>
>>>> Christopher Kimball wrote: .hmmessage P {
>>>> margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
>>>> FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } I've had several knowlegable engine builders tell
>>>> me the same thing and recommend the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:37:52 -0700
>>>>> From: teampantera at yahoo.com
>>>>> To: doug at silicondesigns.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZDDP Oil additive at Eastwood
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you serious? ;-]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mad Dawg
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Braun wrote: FYI: Here's a ZDDP additive
>>>>> for those who would rather run readily available
>>>>> engine oils instead of Shell Rotella to keep their flat tappet valve
>>>>> trains
>>>>> alive.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://eastwood.resultspage.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=zddp
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Braun
>>>>> blue 73L #5505
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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