[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 20

Robert Almeida roofit at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 20 19:58:12 EST 2008


Message: ?
 
For sale or trade make me any offer
I am building a pantera gt4.  I have a front clip from a 73 pantera will all suspension, steering, calipers and rotors.
Also a hood,
Rims and Tires in very good condition.
All media blasted and much more.
Call me @ 604.512.7663 or e-mail me at roofit at hotmail.com
Looking to get rid of it asap I dont need the hassel of holding on to these items or will have to send them to the recyclers.
Buyer will be responsible for shippinf
 
Thanks
Robert Almeida
> From: detomaso-request at realbig.com> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 20> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:00:02 -0600> > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to> detomaso at list.realbig.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> detomaso-request at list.realbig.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> detomaso-owner at list.realbig.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Fw: Welding (Dan Mixon)> 2. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (G?ran Malmberg)> 3. Ceramic Coated Headers (J B Reardon)> 4. Re: Ceramic Coated Headers (Dan Mixon)> 5. Re: Ceramic Coated Headers (Dan Mixon)> 6. Re: Ceramic Coated Headers (John Taphorn)> 7. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (JJD1010 at aol.com)> 8. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (Ken Green)> 9. Details on Gauges... (ProvaMo.com)> 10. Rear Axle and Bearing Task (ProvaMo.com)> 11. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (Tomas Gunnarsson)> 12. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (JJD1010 at aol.com)> 13. Re: Ceramic Coated Headers (Mad Dog Antenucci)> 14. (NPC) drag racing gone bad (John Maffeo)> 15. Re: (NPC) drag racing gone bad (Ken Green)> 16. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (Tomas Gunnarsson)> 17. A quick video for you guys who live in the North (Charles McCall)> 18. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (Paul Timko)> 19. Re: 429/460 bell housing (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 20. Re: A quick video for you guys who live in the North> (Tom Di Iulio)> 21. Re: Flywheel and damper recommendation (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 22. Re: Welding (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 23. Re: Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 24. First production RHD? (ProvaMo.com)> 25. Re: First production RHD? (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 26. Re: A quick video for you guys who live in the North> (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 27. Re: First production RHD? (Tomas Gunnarsson)> 28. Re: First production RHD? (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)> 29. Re: First production RHD? (Tomas Gunnarsson)> 30. What Happens When a Woman Democrat Gets Into Power? (Ken Green)> 31. Re: A quick video for you guys who live in the North> (adin at frontier.net)> 32. NPC - What Happens When a Male Republican Gets Into Power?> (fresnofinches at aol.com)> 33. Re: NPC - What Happens When a Male Republican Gets Into> Power? (Dave Aument)> 34. Re: (NPC) drag racing gone bad (Mike Thomas)> 35. Registry Video Clips... (ProvaMo.com)> 36. Tom Tjaarda, B-J, etc. (Michael Shortt)> 37. Re: Tom Tjaarda, B-J, etc. (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 38. Re: NPC - What Happens When a Male Republican Gets Into> Power? (Christopher Kimball)> 39. Re: Tom Tjaarda, B-J, etc. (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 40. Re: (NPC) drag racing gone bad (Dave Doddek)> 41. Re: Flywheel and damper recommendation (Julian Kift)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:53:49 -0600> From: "Dan Mixon" <tipo874 at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Welding> To: "'Will Demelo'" <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>, <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <S9455176AbYASNxv/20080119135356Z+544 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > It is an electronic ignition. Non-electronic ignitions have points in the> distributor.> > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Will Demelo> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:00 AM> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Welding> > Stupid question....> So an MSD 8350 ready to run distributor or Mallory with a standard coil is > not electronic, correct?> Will> > > > > Any electronic ignition should have the wire harness disconnected before> > welding.> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] > > On> > Behalf Of Will Demelo> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:17 PM> > To: detomaso at realbig.com> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Welding> >> > Do I have to be concerned with welding on a car that does not have an> > ignition (MSD) box?> > Will> > _______________________________________________> >> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:56:55 +0100> From: G?ran Malmberg <hemipanter at hemipanter.se>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>, "Charles McCall"> <charlesmccall at gmail.com>> Message-ID: <000601c85aa3$26ee2710$6400a8c0 at your5999f0a11e>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Good drawing, must be someone knowing what he is doing!> Goran> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>> To: "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:32 AM> Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> > > > Hi all,> > > > I found the following drawing rather interesing and thought I'd share...> > > > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/panteracutaway.jpg> > > > Apparently drawn in 2005, although I don't know why. Nice work though!> > > > Charles McCall> > 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> > "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:06:35 -0800 (PST)> From: J B Reardon <jbreardon at yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> To: tipo874 at comcast.net, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <938503.5055.qm at web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > There is a company in Houston that I have used to> ceramic coat my headers. PolyDyn.com is their site.> They also do other performance coatings. I have had> them do pistons, bearings, heads and etc. for several> engines. Nice folks to work with.> > Jim> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:14:30 -0600> From: "Dan Mixon" <tipo874 at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> To: "'J B Reardon'" <jbreardon at yahoo.com>, <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <S9455790AbYASOOb/20080119141439Z+1914 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > Jim,> > I talked to them yesterday but I thought their prices were high. Saves> shipping costs but then you pay sales tax. > > Dan> > -----Original Message-----> From: J B Reardon [mailto:jbreardon at yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:07 AM> To: tipo874 at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com> Subject: Ceramic Coated Headers> > There is a company in Houston that I have used to> ceramic coat my headers. PolyDyn.com is their site.> They also do other performance coatings. I have had> them do pistons, bearings, heads and etc. for several> engines. Nice folks to work with.> > Jim> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:22:12 -0600> From: "Dan Mixon" <tipo874 at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> To: "'John Taphorn'" <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>,> <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <S9455797AbYASOWP/20080119142221Z+1915 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > John,> > Someone else emailed me they used HPC and had a problem with the coating.> HPC wasn't happy about having to re-do them. They've changed their warranty> policy. 100% warranty for 3 years. 50% warranty thereafter.> > Dan > > -----Original Message-----> From: John Taphorn [mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:21 PM> To: Dan Mixon; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> > Dan> > I used HPC. The coating began to pit with rust after 8 years despite > limited use.> > However, I was impressed when they honored their lifetime warrantee and > refurbished them for free after eight years. The silver coating has held up> > better.> > JT> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Mixon" <tipo874 at comcast.net>> To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:06 PM> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> > > > Houston> >> >> >> > _____> >> > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:48 PM> > To: tipo874 at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> >> >> >> >> > In a message dated 1/18/08 16 43 33, tipo874 at comcast.net writes:> >> >> >> >> >> > Anyone have any recommendations for ceramic coating headers?> >> >> >> > Definitely do it!> >> > Jet-Hot is the originator of the process (for our market anyway) and is > > the> > most expensive. There are numerous other options available, some might be> > local to you. Where are you located?> >> > Mike> >> >> > **************> > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> >> > _______________________________________________> >> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:34:56 -0600> From: "John Taphorn" <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> To: "Dan Mixon" <tipo874 at comcast.net>, <MikeLDrew at aol.com>,> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <010901c85aa8$9714afa0$0201a8c0 at Millennia>> > Dan> > I am not surprised they changed the warranty. Lifetime warrantees are an > open ended liability that tempers the business valuation when the owner > tries to sell it down the road.> > JT> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Mixon" <tipo874 at comcast.net>> To: "'John Taphorn'" <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>; <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; > <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:22 AM> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> > > > John,> >> > Someone else emailed me they used HPC and had a problem with the coating.> > HPC wasn't happy about having to re-do them. They've changed their > > warranty> > policy. 100% warranty for 3 years. 50% warranty thereafter.> >> > Dan> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: John Taphorn [mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:21 PM> > To: Dan Mixon; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> >> > Dan> >> > I used HPC. The coating began to pit with rust after 8 years despite> > limited use.> >> > However, I was impressed when they honored their lifetime warrantee and> > refurbished them for free after eight years. The silver coating has held > > up> >> > better.> >> > JT> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Mixon" <tipo874 at comcast.net>> > To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:06 PM> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> >> >> >> Houston> >>> >>> >>> >> _____> >>> >> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:48 PM> >> To: tipo874 at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> In a message dated 1/18/08 16 43 33, tipo874 at comcast.net writes:> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Anyone have any recommendations for ceramic coating headers?> >>> >>> >>> >> Definitely do it!> >>> >> Jet-Hot is the originator of the process (for our market anyway) and is> >> the> >> most expensive. There are numerous other options available, some might > >> be> >> local to you. Where are you located?> >>> >> Mike> >>> >>> >> **************> >> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> >> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >>> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >>> >> Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >>> >> DeTomaso mailing list> >> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> >> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:13:09 EST> From: JJD1010 at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: charlesmccall at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <d0d.2522d5f9.34c36d85 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > That's really neat. Here's another for sale on eBay.> > _http://tinyurl.com/2y6lmv_ (http://tinyurl.com/2y6lmv) > > > Jeff> 6559> > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:27:52 -0800 (PST)> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, 'DeTomaso A'> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <367078.28680.qm at web30814.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > I searched on "Lindberg Eyewear Pantera" and got several hit. Is this a well known car?> > Ken> > Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi all,> > I found the following drawing rather interesing and thought I'd share...> > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/panteracutaway.jpg> > Apparently drawn in 2005, although I don't know why. Nice work though!> > Charles McCall> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 9> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:22:02 -0800> From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Details on Gauges...> To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAh9db6i38QEyhutFLk7RrJcKAAAAQAAAATW+HKtrRY02Y20DKy5u+RAEAAAAA at sbcglobal.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"> > > Thanks go out to those that sent in pics or information to share regarding> the Gauges In DeTomasos topic. I've gathered some interesting info. I'm> about to release the first draft.> > There is still a number of goals I'd like to include, so if you have> something to share on this topic, please do!> > Someone wrote about how they made their fuel gauge (VDO ?) accurate, but I> forget who. (Thomas, Tomas, T?) This would be useful to include. > > Some pics of Longchamp and Deauville gauges are still needed. Also a shot> of the fuel tank switch (dual tank) would help complete that segment.> > Anyone?> > Chuck Melton> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008> 7:32 PM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:01:24 -0800> From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Axle and Bearing Task> To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAh9db6i38QEyhutFLk7RrJcKAAAAQAAAAe6GhgXw8t0Sup0aF962cDQEAAAAA at sbcglobal.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"> > > I'm now gathering photos and tips on performing the rear axle and bearing> task.> > I am initially focusing on the "stock" setup. Later I can address the> numerous variations (Tapered bearings, dual-roller bearings, Kustom> solutions, complete hub swaps with various vendors, etc...)> > If you have performed this task (stock or more advanced solutions) please> send me your photos, procedure, tips, or lessons learned, so we can share> with others.> > Chuck Melton> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008> 7:32 PM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 11> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:19:53 +0100> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <002101c85ac9$7ac227d0$0201a8c0 at bluff>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > This is the artist's web site.> > http://www.art-tec.dk/da/index.htm> > Tomas> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G?ran Malmberg" <hemipanter at hemipanter.se>> To: "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>; "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:56 PM> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> > > > Good drawing, must be someone knowing what he is doing!> > Goran> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>> > To: "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:32 AM> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> > > > > >> Hi all,> >> > >> I found the following drawing rather interesing and thought I'd share...> >> > >> http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/panteracutaway.jpg> >> > >> Apparently drawn in 2005, although I don't know why. Nice work though!> >> > >> Charles McCall> >> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> >> "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> >> http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> >> _______________________________________________> >> > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > >> Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > >> DeTomaso mailing list> >> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> >> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >>> > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 12> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:50:37 EST> From: JJD1010 at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <cef.27cffeea.34c3a07d at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > > Charley,> > Where did you find the cutaway drawing? It'd be interesting to find more > info about it.> > Jeff> 6559> > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 13> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:00:20 -0800 (PST)> From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> To: John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>, Dan Mixon> <tipo874 at comcast.net>, MikeLDrew at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <372414.14449.qm at web50111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > Its more then just the liability. I've used HPC and 3 other suppliers on 4 different set of headers and the ceremic coated headers all looked great in the beginning. > > After about 4-5 hard open road races the sniny bling became faded but no doubt the ceremic coating was still doing the job and it didn't matter whether I was using aftermarket headers or custom 180's. Guys I know endurance racing Vettes, Porsche's etc., have all had the same or similar experiences....don't want the shiny to fade?> Use black ceremic coating or go slow like JT does ;-]>> > And does the coating the headers inside and out make them run any cooler or work any more effectively or make more HP? Maybe it does if you believe the mfg's data but I can tell you I still got a nice 2nd degree burn on my foreman trying to get a tat. Interestingly enough the burn scare tat looks like the outline of Italy! Bwahahaha.> > If you want fast buy a set of split fire plugs. ;-]> > Dawg > > . > > John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:> Dan> > I am not surprised they changed the warranty. Lifetime warrantees are an > open ended liability that tempers the business valuation when the owner > tries to sell it down the road.> > JT> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Mixon" > To: "'John Taphorn'" ; ; > > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:22 AM> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> > > > John,> >> > Someone else emailed me they used HPC and had a problem with the coating.> > HPC wasn't happy about having to re-do them. They've changed their > > warranty> > policy. 100% warranty for 3 years. 50% warranty thereafter.> >> > Dan> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: John Taphorn [mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:21 PM> > To: Dan Mixon; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> >> > Dan> >> > I used HPC. The coating began to pit with rust after 8 years despite> > limited use.> >> > However, I was impressed when they honored their lifetime warrantee and> > refurbished them for free after eight years. The silver coating has held > > up> >> > better.> >> > JT> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Mixon" > > To: ; > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:06 PM> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> >> >> >> Houston> >>> >>> >>> >> _____> >>> >> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:48 PM> >> To: tipo874 at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ceramic Coated Headers> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> In a message dated 1/18/08 16 43 33, tipo874 at comcast.net writes:> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Anyone have any recommendations for ceramic coating headers?> >>> >>> >>> >> Definitely do it!> >>> >> Jet-Hot is the originator of the process (for our market anyway) and is> >> the> >> most expensive. There are numerous other options available, some might > >> be> >> local to you. Where are you located?> >>> >> Mike> >>> >>> >> **************> >> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> >> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >>> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >>> >> Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >>> >> DeTomaso mailing list> >> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> >> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > Mad Dawg Antenucci > Team Pantera Racing > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing > www.teampanteraracing.com> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 14> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:11:24 -0800 (PST)> From: John Maffeo <johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] (NPC) drag racing gone bad> To: mail list Pantera <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <483426.83015.qm at web54011.mail.re2.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > poor little chevy......> > http://www.maniacworld.com/drag-racing-gone-wrong.html> > > > John> > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.> > ------------------------------> > Message: 15> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:23:02 -0800 (PST)> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] (NPC) drag racing gone bad> To: John Maffeo <johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com>, mail list Pantera> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <898052.44057.qm at web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > It looks like the slicks rubbed the edge of the fender(s) and the contact created enough force/torque to rip the leaf springs out of their mounts.> > > > John Maffeo <johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com> wrote:> poor little chevy......> > http://www.maniacworld.com/drag-racing-gone-wrong.html> > > > John> > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 16> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:23:01 +0100> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <002701c85ad1$e02847a0$0201a8c0 at bluff>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I think it's one of three Panteras built and raced based in Denmark the last couple of years.> > Tomas> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>> To: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:27 PM> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> > > >I searched on "Lindberg Eyewear Pantera" and got several hit. Is this a well known car?> > > > Ken> > > > Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:> > Hi all,> > > > I found the following drawing rather interesing and thought I'd share...> > > > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/panteracutaway.jpg> > > > Apparently drawn in 2005, although I don't know why. Nice work though!> > > > Charles McCall> > 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> > "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 17> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:34:46 +0100> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] A quick video for you guys who live in the North> To: "'DeTomaso A'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <001101c85ad2$5a8d49a0$0201a8c0 at Sisteplant.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Hi all,> > A spring-like day here in Spain... So out came the Pantera, the garage got> cleaned... > > Not the most fascinating video in the world, but for those in the snowy> north who haven't heard their car run in a couple months I shot a quick> video of a pair of departures. > > Car sure sounds nice, I think ;-) > > Last two files in http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/> > The low-res version is a little under 4MB while the higher res version is> 11MB or so. > > Charles McCall> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 18> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:38:53 -0600> From: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)> Cc: 'DeTomaso A' <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <479251CD.6080402 at pobox.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > I found it it interesting that it shows CV joints instead of U-joints.> > Paul> #9270> > Charles McCall wrote:> > Hi all,> > > > I found the following drawing rather interesing and thought I'd share...> > > > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/panteracutaway.jpg> > > > Apparently drawn in 2005, although I don't know why. Nice work though!> > > > Charles McCall> > 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> > "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 19> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:48:59 EST> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 429/460 bell housing> To: shelbygt at cfu.net, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <c72.24872d24.34c3ae2b at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > FWIW, the Byars boyz at Precision Proformance in So-Cal <> www.precisionproformance.com> pioneered the successful big-block-in-a Pantera swap and have in > stock everything you need to do the job without rediscovering the wheel, > so-to-speak. I'm told they sell it as a turnkey installation, as a kit or > one-part-at-a-time for do-it-yerselfers. One item I keep reminding people of is to > seriously regear your ZF afterwards or you will have effectively created a ZF > 3-speed; the monstrous torque of a big block will make 1st & 2nd gear almost useless > even with giant rear tires. Once regeared and with a good chassis brace system > and better shocks, you will have a true 200mph sportscar, if thats what your > goal is. Good luck- J DeRyke> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways > to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 20> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:54:06 -0700> From: "Tom Di Iulio" <tomdiiulio at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A quick video for you guys who live in the> North> To: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>> Cc: DeTomaso A <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <6102200801191154i4f09d5b5m10c23cccd8259e52 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > a great video on a beautiful day, very nice although i know someone who's> gonna be needing a new clutch disc if he keeps spinning those fat rear> tires.......> > On Jan 19, 2008 12:34 PM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:> > > Hi all,> >> > A spring-like day here in Spain... So out came the Pantera, the garage got> > cleaned...> >> > Not the most fascinating video in the world, but for those in the snowy> > north who haven't heard their car run in a couple months I shot a quick> > video of a pair of departures.> >> > Car sure sounds nice, I think ;-)> >> > Last two files in http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/> >> > The low-res version is a little under 4MB while the higher res version is> > 11MB or so.> >> > Charles McCall> > 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> > "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> > http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> > _______________________________________________> >> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 21> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:00:44 EST> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flywheel and damper recommendation> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <cba.21933d79.34c3b0ec at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"> > In a message dated 1/18/08 11:50:35 AM, kenn_green at yahoo.com writes:> > > I'm not sure the actual weight difference is 28.2 oz on the flywheel, and > > the distance from the center would make a difference.? I don't think it's that > > simple.> > > True. When I built my aluminum flywheel a couple of years ago, I mentioned in > the newsletter article documenting it that the balance figure needed was > really 28.2 inch-ounces of balance weight. So as the 'inches' part of the > balancing gets larger, the 'weight'-part gets smaller in proportion, and vice-versa. > One can visually tell an early Ford 28-inch-oz flywheel from a late model 50 > inch-oz unit by the fact that it takes more mass for the 50-inch-ounces, so > those weights are usually clear out next to the ring gear, while the earlier, > smaller amount of weight is about halfway out from from the bolt circle. FWIW- J > DeRyke> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 22> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:13:40 EST> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Welding> To: wdemelo at cogeco.ca, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <d4a.1f020369.34c3b3f4 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > In a message dated 1/18/08 4:20:36 PM, wdemelo at cogeco.ca writes:> > > Do I have to be concerned with welding on a car that does not have an > > ignition (MSD) box?> > > Not sure but I'd be suspicious of almost anything that had solid state > components in it, since one of the little quirks that makes our cars so darn > endearing (?) is the presence of ground-loops in the wiring. A ground loop occurs > when 'ground' in a circuit turns out to be not quite zero for a variety of > reasons. You can get some positive potential madly racing thru your wiring looking > for a true zero ground. If the amperage is high enough, those > not-quite-zero-points can be trouble-makers. I simply disconnect the few solid-state things we > have before doing electric welding. Good luck- J DeRyke> > > **************> Start the > year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 23> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:46:10 EST> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Interesting Pantera cut-away drawing> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com, charlesmccall at gmail.com,> detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <c01.2ad2bfcf.34c3bb92 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"> > > In a message dated 1/19/08 8 28 32, kenn_green at yahoo.com writes:> > > > I searched on "Lindberg Eyewear Pantera" and got several hit.? Is this a > > well known car?> > > > Yes. It is one of three standard US-model Panteras that were exported to > Denmark a few years ago and converted to Gr4 spec for vintage racing. This > Danish team has been covered extensively in both PI and POCA Profiles.> > The owner of the white car lost interest, and it was up for sale in England > last year for a rather princely sum. I don't know if it sold or not though.> > Mike> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 24> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:03:01 -0800> From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> Subject: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAh9db6i38QEyhutFLk7RrJcKAAAAQAAAAVrUaFgYZnUGkjws1TJXFYAEAAAAA at sbcglobal.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"> > > Does anyone know what the first production RHD car is (or when made)?> > I'm not talking about retro-fitted by the factory, or after-market> conversions.> > I know a number of Mangustas were initially built as Right-Hand Drive,> and I know there were some early Panteras built for the UK market, and later> Australia. (Pantera #4508 is a good example.)> > I'd also like to chat with a current owner of a RHD car (any model).> So if you have a RHD DeTomaso please contact me directly.> > Thanks!> > Also, when did Sweden convert to LHD? (Right street side?)> > Chuck Melton> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008> 7:32 PM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 25> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:21:39 EST> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> To: Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <c68.1f40fcd6.34c3c3e3 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > > In a message dated 1/19/08 13 03 37, Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net writes:> > > > Does anyone know what the first production RHD car is (or when made)?> > > > I'm not talking about retro-fitted by the factory, or after-market> > conversions.> > > > Right now the earliest known RHD Pantera is pushbutton #1228. However, > recent inspection has revealed that the VIN was stamped on a plate which was > riveted to the top of the brake booster box; removing that shows a steel plate > which was welded atop the booster box, and the original VIN has been scratched > out. Phil Stebbings (DTDC founder/secretary and a long-time inspector for > Scotland Yard) is hoping to do a little CSI action on it and see if the original > VIN can be lifted.> > The car in question has many unique features which are very different even > from early Euro pushbuttons, specifically Stephane Bergeron's #1256. Roger > Brotton is working on it, and has found a host of anomolies which are completely > unique to this car (in his experience).> > Roger is looking for somebody with a very early Pantera (such as Bjorn's > #1014) so he can compare notes; he believes this car may in fact be the very first > RHD prototype. That car was reportedly crashed severely by an idiot > journalist, and now it seems that the car in question may have been 'reinvented' from > that car in an effort to hide its checkered past. When the restoration > began, they found that the entire left side of the car was made out of bondo, > which jives with the story of the crash (journalist mistook the gas for the brake, > or something similarly stupid, and pounded the whole left side of the car > into a guardrail).> > The whole LHD-to-RHD conversion process was extremely flaky; I've worked on a > couple of RHD cars and it's rather scary to contemplate. The clutch and > brake masters are still on the LH side of the car; the framework that supports > the steering column is literally chopped out from the left side and sloppily > re-welded on the right side, and some hokey cross-shaft arrangement is conjured > up , so that the pedals on the right side of the car turn shafts (which act > like big torsion bars, twisting under load) which in turn actuate their > respective master cylinders.> > I've got a bunch of photos detailing the LHD-to-RHD conversion, and will > write an article about it for Profiles someday....> > Come to think of it, that crash I mentioned may have been caused by the brake > pedal shaft snapping; other RHD Panteras have had this shaft snap cleanly in > two, creating a true Brown Trousers moment for the occupants of the car at the > time....> > Mike> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 26> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:58:06 EST> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A quick video for you guys who live in the> North> To: charlesmccall at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <cc7.2580d1a3.34c3cc6e at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > All,> > I note that sometimes when you click on Charlie's link it opens the file in a > new WMV window, while other times you get an error message from AOL saying > that the file or webpage no longer exists.> > If you right-click you can download the file, which seems to work 100% of the > time, and once it's on your hard drive you can watch it as often as you like.> > Mike> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 27> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:04:37 +0100> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <004501c85ae7$4b863150$0201a8c0 at bluff>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Sweden switched side of the road in 1967 but the cars were always LHD.> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H> > Tomas> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:03 PM> Subject: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> > > > > > Does anyone know what the first production RHD car is (or when made)?> > > > I'm not talking about retro-fitted by the factory, or after-market> > conversions.> > > > I know a number of Mangustas were initially built as Right-Hand Drive,> > and I know there were some early Panteras built for the UK market, and later> > Australia. (Pantera #4508 is a good example.)> > > > I'd also like to chat with a current owner of a RHD car (any model).> > So if you have a RHD DeTomaso please contact me directly.> > > > Thanks!> > > > Also, when did Sweden convert to LHD? (Right street side?)> > > > Chuck Melton> > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008> > 7:32 PM> > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 28> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:22:00 -0500> From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> To: "'Tomas Gunnarsson'" <guson at home.se>, "'List'"> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <S9456682AbYASWYG/20080119222409Z+696 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Tomas,> > This is a very good read. You must have been a young lad at the time. Do you> remember all the problems? Any good stories?> > > Larry - Cleveland> > > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:05 PM> To: List> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> > Sweden switched side of the road in 1967 but the cars were always LHD.> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H> > Tomas> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:03 PM> Subject: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> > > > > > Does anyone know what the first production RHD car is (or when made)?> > > > I'm not talking about retro-fitted by the factory, or after-market> > conversions.> > > > I know a number of Mangustas were initially built as Right-Hand Drive,> > and I know there were some early Panteras built for the UK market, and> later> > Australia. (Pantera #4508 is a good example.)> > > > I'd also like to chat with a current owner of a RHD car (any model).> > So if you have a RHD DeTomaso please contact me directly.> > > > Thanks!> > > > Also, when did Sweden convert to LHD? (Right street side?)> > > > Chuck Melton> > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008> > 7:32 PM> > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 29> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:42:48 +0100> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> To: "'List'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <00b101c85aec$a04b24c0$0201a8c0 at bluff>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > No, I was two years old at the time of the switch so I have no stories for you! :-)> > Tomas> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>> To: "'Tomas Gunnarsson'" <guson at home.se>; "'List'" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:22 PM> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> > > > Tomas,> > > > This is a very good read. You must have been a young lad at the time. Do you> > remember all the problems? Any good stories?> > > > > > Larry - Cleveland> > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> > Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:05 PM> > To: List> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> > > > Sweden switched side of the road in 1967 but the cars were always LHD.> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H> > > > Tomas> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> > To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:03 PM> > Subject: [DeTomaso] First production RHD?> > > > > >> > >> Does anyone know what the first production RHD car is (or when made)?> >> > >> I'm not talking about retro-fitted by the factory, or after-market> >> conversions.> >> > >> I know a number of Mangustas were initially built as Right-Hand Drive,> >> and I know there were some early Panteras built for the UK market, and> > later> >> Australia. (Pantera #4508 is a good example.)> >> > >> I'd also like to chat with a current owner of a RHD car (any model).> >> So if you have a RHD DeTomaso please contact me directly.> >> > >> Thanks!> >> > >> Also, when did Sweden convert to LHD? (Right street side?)> >> > >> Chuck Melton> >> > >> > >> No virus found in this outgoing message.> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008> >> 7:32 PM> >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________> >> > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > >> Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > >> DeTomaso mailing list> >> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> >> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >>> > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 30> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:13:08 -0800 (PST)> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] What Happens When a Woman Democrat Gets Into> Power?> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <287350.38057.qm at web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080119/ap_on_re_us/photo_radar> > How very liberal of her > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 31> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:37:43 -0700> From: adin at frontier.net> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A quick video for you guys who live in the> North> To: detomaso at list.realbig.com> Message-ID:> <20080119163743.oc4zxazrok4o808k at webmail.brainstorminternet.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes";> format="flowed"> > > A Pantera is like a penis . . .> > not much good if you can't take it out and play with it!> > > David, loves to play hard> > > > > > Quoting Tom Di Iulio <tomdiiulio at gmail.com>:> > > a great video on a beautiful day, very nice although i know someone who's> > gonna be needing a new clutch disc if he keeps spinning those fat rear> > tires.......> >> > On Jan 19, 2008 12:34 PM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:> >> >> Hi all,> >>> >> A spring-like day here in Spain... So out came the Pantera, the garage got> >> cleaned...> >>> >> Not the most fascinating video in the world, but for those in the snowy> >> north who haven't heard their car run in a couple months I shot a quick> >> video of a pair of departures.> >>> >> Car sure sounds nice, I think ;-)> >>> >> Last two files in http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/> >>> >> The low-res version is a little under 4MB while the higher res version is> >> 11MB or so.> >>> >> Charles McCall> >> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375> >> "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"> >> http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/> >> _______________________________________________> >>> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >>> >> Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >>> >> DeTomaso mailing list> >> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> >> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >>> > _______________________________________________> >> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 32> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:07:25 -0500> From: fresnofinches at aol.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - What Happens When a Male Republican Gets> Into Power?> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <8CA290F928D6605-C04-4332 at FWM-D12.sysops.aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > http://tinyurl.com/y5maec> ________________________________________________________________________> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 33> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:57:21 -0500> From: Dave Aument <dmaument at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - What Happens When a Male Republican Gets> Into Power?> To: DeTomaso List <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <78B0A3A4-68C2-4BA5-A9DE-5451FC904BE5 at comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes> > Dem, Rep or whatever.... I vote and it sucks. Show me a candidate > thats honest and not in someone's pocket and I'll vote for them, I > could care less what party it is.> > my 2 ? Dave> > ------------------------------> > Message: 34> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:10:10 -0800> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] (NPC) drag racing gone bad> To: "'John Maffeo'" <johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com>, "'mail list Pantera'"> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <S9457030AbYATBC5/20080120010307Z+745 at realbig.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > That totally redefines the "wheelie". That is toooo funny. > > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of John Maffeo> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:11 AM> To: mail list Pantera> Subject: [DeTomaso] (NPC) drag racing gone bad> > poor little chevy......> > http://www.maniacworld.com/drag-racing-gone-wrong.html> > > > John> > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it> now.> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 35> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:22:32 -0800> From: "ProvaMo.com" <Pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Registry Video Clips...> To: "List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAh9db6i38QEyhutFLk7RrJcKAAAAQAAAAFLkl210g30SnEAWMP2vjtgEAAAAA at sbcglobal.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"> > > The search function to locate DeTomaso Video Clips is now available,> found on the main search page...> > If you know the VIN of any DeTomaso with a video clip, perhaps you posted it> to "youtube", or elsewhere, either send me the clip, or provide what info> you have (VIN, Owner, etc...) and a link to the clip. I'll see what I can> do.> > Chuck Melton> > www.DeTomasoRegistry.org> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008> 7:32 PM> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 36> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:53:32 -0500> From: "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda, B-J, etc.> To: "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <29a6b52c0801191953j3c86e847ib848a5009e722991 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Tom Tjaarda's Corvette Concept car is the leading $ car at B-J> tonight, by over 600K, sold for $1,600.000.00.> > Too bad it's a stink'n Chevy.> > But anything that TT designed selling high only helps us all!> > Michael in Savannah> > > PS, Bo Duke's Silver State ( 7x, reported top speed at 165 mph )> General Lee just sold for> > $ 450,000, it's the same car that was messed around with on eBay last summer> > Looks like some idiot didn't figure out there are about 2,000 General> Lee's rolling around.> Nice car, but I'd rather have about 6-7 top notch P cars.> > -- > Michael L. Shortt> Savannah, Georgia> www.michaelshortt.com> michael at michaelshortt.com> > > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified> that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this> communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 37> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:55:54 EST> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda, B-J, etc.> To: michaelsavga at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <c94.23e5b3a2.34c4204a at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > > In a message dated 1/19/08 19 54 4, michaelsavga at gmail.com writes:> > > > Tom Tjaarda's Corvette Concept car is the leading $ car at B-J> > tonight, by over 600K, sold for $1,600.000.00.> > > > Too bad it's a stink'n Chevy.> > > > But anything that TT designed selling high only helps us all!> > > > > > Do you have a link? I've never heard of this car?> > Mike> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 38> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:03:28 -0800> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - What Happens When a Male Republican Gets> Into Power?> To: <fresnofinches at aol.com>, <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <BAY112-W116FE0E5379F9A6DA83F5EBC3C0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Not to get political or anything, but nobody said war is nice. Ask yourself how many millions of people died as a result of world war II, then ask yourself how many more would have died it the USA had done nothing? It's very difficult to make the argument we never should have gotten involved in a war, unless you can prove what would have happened if we hadn't, which, of course, is impossible.> > Sincerely,> > Chris> #3846> > > To: detomaso at realbig.com> > Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:07:25 -0500> > From: fresnofinches at aol.com> > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - What Happens When a Male Republican Gets Into Power?> > > > http://tinyurl.com/y5maec> > ________________________________________________________________________> > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com> > _______________________________________________> > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > > > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 39> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:04:36 EST> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tom Tjaarda, B-J, etc.> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com, michaelsavga at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <bbe.207a6b91.34c42254 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"> > > In a message dated 1/19/08 19 56 45, MikeLDrew at aol.com writes:> > > > > > Do you have a link??? I've never heard of this car?> > > > Never mind, Google knows all:> > http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/1094/Chevrolet-Corvette-Rondine-Pininfarina> -Coupe.html> > Ironically I saw this car at the SEMA show, and barely gave it a second > glance. It was interesting, and very pretty, but had I known it was a Tjaarda > design I certainly would have paid far more attention and taken more than one > stupid photo!> > Mike> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 40> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:11:44 -0600> From: Dave Doddek <pantera at pobox.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] (NPC) drag racing gone bad> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20080119231144.00c65848 at mail.mtco.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > I think someone needs welding lessons.> > Dave "I weld better than that, I hope" D> > > At 11:11 AM 1/19/2008 -0800, you wrote:> >poor little chevy......> > > > http://www.maniacworld.com/drag-racing-gone-wrong.html> >> >> > > > John> >> > > >---------------------------------> >Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it> now.> >_______________________________________________> >> >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> >Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> >DeTomaso mailing list> >DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> >http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 41> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:30:01 -0800> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flywheel and damper recommendation> To: <mikeldrew at aol.com>, <wkooiman at earthlink.net>,> <pantera at fastcat.se>, <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>,> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <BAY140-W25FADB26B5F17B550C38C6953C0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Larry Stock and I did some digging on this when I purchased an Al flywheel, primarily as I complained about his pricing.> > It turned out that the part Mustang Depot and a few others were selling is lower grade Al (I can't remember off the top of my head what grade and didn't keep the e-mail) and cut from Al rod, whereas the higher $$ ones are higher quality. I ended up going with one of Larry's that has predrilled bolt locations for Ford 10.5", Ford 11" and Centerforce clutch patterns.> > That said yes there are a number installed in Pantera's out there and performing, depends on how severe the duty I guess. If severe then it may be wise to find out more on materials of construction.> > Julian >>The Mustang Depot - Fidanza 164T - < $300 - not from Summit.>>>> It comes with a removable weight so, it is either neutral?, 28.2, or 50. >It's either 28.2 or 50.>>For an offshore part, it seems decent enough. Several Pantera >dudes on this forum are running them with no problems. Mike> _________________________________________________________________> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008> > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 20> ****************************************
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