[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 18

[JOE NORMAN]

FWIW;  I WAS ON THE R.G. CANNING SHOW SERIES WITH GEORGE. PUREGOLD TOOK 1ST PLACE & PEOPLES CHOICE AWARDS AT EVERY SHOW. HE WAS THE FIRST PERSON THAT WASNT SCARED TO COME OVER TO TALK WITH A GROUP OF ANGELS, WHILE MY CLUB BROTHERS HELPED WITH SETTING UP MY DESPLAY. I OF COURSE DIDNT HAVE A PANTERA. BUT WHILE HE TRAILERED HIS PANTERA TO THE SHOWS I ROAD MY 48 PAN TO ALL OF THEM. AND HE WAS VERY GOOD NATURED ABOUT ALL THE KIDDING I GAVE HIM. HE WAS A GREAT GUY. HE TOLD ME BACK IN 84 THAT HE WAS GOING TO BUILD A PANTERA LIMO. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF HE GOT AROUND TO IT?J.D. NORMAN  H.A.M.C. (RET)> From: detomaso-request at realbig.com> Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 18> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:00:02 -0600> > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to> detomaso at list.realbig.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> detomaso-request at list.realbig.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> detomaso-owner at list.realbig.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: 400 Bellhousing (gow2 at rc-tech.net)> 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 17- ALUM FLYWHEELS> (RCBSONS1 at aol.com)> 3. Re: Canadian drag racing threatened? BIG NPC (Doug Braun)> 4. Re: Barrett Jackson (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 5. George and PURGOLD (MACHWIL at aol.com)> 6. Re: George and PURGOLD (MikeLDrew at aol.com)> 7. Re: George and PURGOLD (Mad Dog Antenucci)> 8. Speaking of BJA and Flying Cars (scott black)> 9. Re: George and PURGOLD (scott black)> 10. Re: George and PURGOLD (JDeRyke at aol.com)> 11. Re: George and PURGOLD (Mark McWhinney)> 12. Re: PAHRUMP HOTEL ROOMS (Tom Di Iulio)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:00:03 -0000 (GMT)> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 400 Bellhousing> To: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID:> <1359.216.135.34.250.1200578403.squirrel at webmail12.pair.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1> > Chuck,> > I don't think I responded to this. Yes and yes. Mine is different and I do> not know the source. Keep in mind though bell housing is only one piece of> the puzzle. There are a few other pieces to the project such as headers,> engine mounts.> > Gary> > > > >Dear Gary,> >> > Is it correct that this new trick bellhousing will permit> >the ZF to bolt right up to the bellhousing for a perfect, no-brainer> >"bolt-on" part to use the standard Ford 400 engine with the ZF in the> >Pantera?? This seems too good to be true. If I recall correctly you> >are using a different bellhousing than the Meyer unit?> >> >> > Very interesting, Chuck Engles> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:34:49 EST> From: RCBSONS1 at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 17- ALUM> FLYWHEELS> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <c63.2461b712.34c0ebb9 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > My alum flywheel experiences> > Pantera with a slightly modified Cleveland > like Jack stated was streetable but when I > put the Steam Roller 345's out back you could > tell the torque was down> > The Pantera with my currrent 411" srtoker> makes little difference in the torque but > it revs so quickly due to the flywheel and> advance bushing in the MSD that most > people cannot believe the response> > The Firebird has an alum flywheel but> has a steel interpiece.... this car is 440 ci> has 430hp but 520 lbs of torque... the breaking> of the motor due to the flywheel is increadible> and very noticable. It works nicely in the autocross> car with the motor doing much of the breaking on course> This was one of the best changes I have made> in the car since owning it the past 17 years and 7 or 8> engines> > Bob Benson> > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:05:47 -0800> From: "Doug Braun" <doug at silicondesigns.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Canadian drag racing threatened? BIG NPC> To: "Pantera List" <detomaso at realbig.com>> Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>> Message-ID: <NDBBIOBGFMAGOGGOBEJJEEIEMNAA.doug at silicondesigns.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Hey Mike Thomas,> > Would you please forward this to all of our Canadian members of Panteras> Northwest.> > Doug Braun> blue 73L #5505> > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Rick> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:51 PM> To: Pantera List> Subject: [DeTomaso] Canadian drag racing threatened? BIG NPC> > > > FYI, got this from another mailing list, interesting if really true. Any> Canadian Pantera owners know about this ??> -------------------------------------------------------------------------> Racers, it seems the sky is truly falling. The Government of Canada is> planning to implement a total and permanent ban on the use of leaded> fuels for competition purposes, effective January 1st, 2009.> > If this happens, Professional Drag Racing in Canada is over. Immediately,> completely and forever. This isn't the same as the challenges we've faced> in the past. This time, they're dropping the 'Big One'.> No Pro Mod, No Pro Stock, No Top Fuel or Nitro Funny Car and no American> competitors in any of our sportsman classes. Only Alcohol Funny Cars> would remain unscathed.> > Although many Canadian sportsman competitors run their cars effectively> on unleaded racing fuel or methanol, any of our competitors using leaded> fuel have two choices. Change or quit.> > The legislation arrived in our office last week. We took the time to read> the document from start to finish to make sure we weren't overreacting.> Then we talked to fuel suppliers, the IHRA and local politicians,> including London's Bud Polhill; a long time drag racing advocate in the> Canadian fuel wars.> > What makes this bill viciously unfair is, they indicate that there may be> increased health risks associated with leaded fuels than previously> thought, and are advocating this change without any actual testing or> proof. The US, Britain and Australia must not put much faith in this new> information as they have no changes planned in their Leaded fuel for> competition vehicles policies at volumes 10 to 100 times the annual Cdn.> volume. Also the passing of this bill does not eliminate leaded fuel, it> only eliminates our portion, which is 1.5% of the leaded fuel consumed in> Canada (these are the Govt's own numbers right in the report> Industry profile) the remaining 98.5% is used as aviation fuel and they> have been given a permanent exemption. (which includes private pleasure> planes, etc.)> > Bottom line, it's as bad as it seems. The Canadian Government are> legislating Canada's largest racing facilities out of business. The> document can be found on the Government of Canada website, under Canada> Gazette Part 1, Dec. 22, 2007. The link to the document is:> http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partI/2007/20071222/html/regle1-e.html> If you're passionate about our sport, I can only beg you to call, write> and email every politician you can think of, and let them know how you> feel about your sport being forced out of existence.YOU NEED TO DO THIS> ASAP AS THE COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS ACTION CLOSES ON FEB 20th , 2008 and> it will then be scheduled for a vote. Make sure the companies that tailor> their businesses around the performance industry know as well. They've> got a big stake in this too.> > This is the link that takes you to the current Members of Parliament.> http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/MainMPsCompleteList.aspx> On the left side of the page, you will see a text box labeled; Quick> Search. Type in the name of your City or County to go to your local> representative.> > Some of Canada's smaller tracks may in fact survive, as their facilities> are geared toward handling smaller events, slower cars and fewer> spectators. Canada's Super Tracks, that have invested millions and> continue to invest in their facilities on a yearly basis, like Castrol> Raceway and Grand Bend Motorplex will, in all likelihood, cease to be.> Picture the Air Canada Centre in Toronto, without the Maple Leafs and the> Raptors.> > You know, it's funny. No matter how many storms you weather, you never> really believe that one big wave is going to hit, until you're already> upside down in the freezing water.> > To all the Drag racing competitors, crew and fans; thank you for your> support and let's have a great year of racing in 2008. It may very well> be our last.> > Take care and play safe.> > Ron Biekx> General Manager, Grand Bend Motorplex> > > > > _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:10:45 EST> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson> To: hoppe1 at cox.net, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <bea.23299b51.34c0f425 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"> > In a message dated 1/16/08 7:54:08 PM, hoppe1 at cox.net writes:> > > At the time 1995 I had a 1971 429 cj mustang mach 1, the 1971 429 cj torino > > cobra and the 1971 pantera.? I kept the pantera.? Which I still like more > > but is worth less than either car.? Amazing.> > > Anyone who expects to make money on neat cars deserves what they get.... Judy > & I had one friend who sold a Ferrari 330 at a loss in order the buy a > brand-new '71 Pantera. Decades later he sold the Pantera- again at a loss to buy a > Scarab (a Chev-powered Datsun 240Z). After driving it for awhile, he sold the > Scarab to buy a Chev powered Cobra kit. Not long after, he GAVE the kit car > to his son. Who later died of brain cancer and the kit went away in his estate. > So in a sense, our acquaintence 'gave away' the Ferrari. But he did have lots > of fun-use from all of them which has to be worth something. FWIW- J DeRyke> > > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:03:22 EST> From: MACHWIL at aol.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] George and PURGOLD> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <cf4.1e5ae0c2.34c1007a at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > FWIW, all Pantera owners.> > This morning George Peloquin passed. He was the builder and owner of the > "PURGOLD" Pantera.> Arguably the best known Pantera for the last 25 or 30 years.> > George discovered he had luekemia about 4 weeks ago. It progressed very > fast. > > Many of you knew George very well, and he will be missed. I believe he had > the first 4.6 engine coversion in PURGOLD. > > He will be missed.> > Bud Williams> > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:11:58 EST> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] George and PURGOLD> To: MACHWIL at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <ce8.24448181.34c1027e at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > That's a damn shame. I just heard about George's condition last week, and > apparently it had progressed so quickly that there was nothing that could be > done.> > I was told that George was rather philosophical about the whole thing > (certainly more than I would be?) and he lived a good, happy life. He was certainly > an invidividual, even amongst individuals, and he left his mark on the > Pantera community. He will be long remembered.> > Mike> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:28:11 -0800 (PST)> From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] George and PURGOLD> To: MACHWIL at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <412213.36401.qm at web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > Thanks for sharing Bud. George's loss is truly sad. I remember meeting George down at Steve Wilkinson's shop shortly after moving to SoCal.....And seeing PURGOLD in Vegas for the first time many <?> years ago and amazed by his dedication to think way outside the box and have some fun at the same time with one of the early customized Pantera's. > > md> > MACHWIL at aol.com wrote:> FWIW, all Pantera owners.> > This morning George Peloquin passed. He was the builder and owner of the > "PURGOLD" Pantera.> Arguably the best known Pantera for the last 25 or 30 years.> > George discovered he had luekemia about 4 weeks ago. It progressed very > fast. > > Many of you knew George very well, and he will be missed. I believe he had > the first 4.6 engine coversion in PURGOLD. > > He will be missed.> > Bud Williams> > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > Mad Dawg Antenucci > Team Pantera Racing > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing > www.teampanteraracing.com> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:02:55 -0800 (PST)> From: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of BJA and Flying Cars> To: DeTomaso A <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <557383.87526.qm at web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/search/carlist_Details.aspx?&In_LotNumber=1264> > Scott Black > > > TimePiece Public Relations> Dallas - Houston - New York> www.timepiecepr.com> > ---------------------------------> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> > ------------------------------> > Message: 9> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:05:58 -0800 (PST)> From: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] George and PURGOLD> To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso A> <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID: <561113.10624.qm at web56409.mail.re3.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > He was truly a world-class ambassador for the DeTomaso world and a first-class man.> > Scott Black > > Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for sharing Bud. George's loss is truly sad. I remember meeting George down at Steve Wilkinson's shop shortly after moving to SoCal.....And seeing PURGOLD in Vegas for the first time many years ago and amazed by his dedication to think way outside the box and have some fun at the same time with one of the early customized Pantera's. > > md> > MACHWIL at aol.com wrote:> FWIW, all Pantera owners.> > This morning George Peloquin passed. He was the builder and owner of the > "PURGOLD" Pantera.> Arguably the best known Pantera for the last 25 or 30 years.> > George discovered he had luekemia about 4 weeks ago. It progressed very > fast. > > Many of you knew George very well, and he will be missed. I believe he had > the first 4.6 engine coversion in PURGOLD. > > He will be missed.> > Bud Williams> > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > Mad Dawg Antenucci > Team Pantera Racing > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing > www.teampanteraracing.com> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > TimePiece Public Relations> Dallas - Houston - New York> www.timepiecepr.com> > ---------------------------------> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> > ------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:11:07 EST> From: JDeRyke at aol.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] George and PURGOLD> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID: <cb2.27c13fba.34c1489b at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > I remember one year at a 'Vegas Fun Rally that George's car was parked in the > Fremont Street display with the decklid open, and while I was standing there > with him, two black 'fancy ladies' with mile-high skirts and heels sauntered > up, looked in, saw those two big gold-plated nitrous tanks he had strapped > above the ZF, and one said to the other in awed tones, 'LORDY, THAT ONE GOT ROCKET > POWER!! THEY'S TWO ROCKETS BACK THERE!! And they backed away and walked on. I > thought ol' George would expire from laughter right there.....> Miss him already- J DeRyke> > > **************> Start the year off right. Easy ways > to stay in shape.> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 11> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:35:45 -0800> From: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] George and PURGOLD> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>> Message-ID:> <20080118003554.ED5B0E38018 at smtpauth02.csee.onr.siteprotect.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > > I had heard a couple of weeks ago that that George had cancer and the he had> chosen to forego treatment given the inevitability of the outcome. I am> surprised and saddened that it came so quickly.> > I had met George a few years ago at Las Vegas. He had PURGOLD parked in the> primo spot on Fremont directly across from the Plaza where all the people> walking down Main St. and Fremont could see it. I introduced myself and> soon found George to be as much of a character as his over the top car.> > I do not know what the plans are for the car, but I do hope it ends up with> someone who can take good care of George's legacy.> > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On> Behalf Of MACHWIL at aol.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:03 AM> To: detomaso at realbig.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] George and PURGOLD> > FWIW, all Pantera owners.> > This morning George Peloquin passed. He was the builder and owner of the > "PURGOLD" Pantera.> Arguably the best known Pantera for the last 25 or 30 years.> > George discovered he had luekemia about 4 weeks ago. It progressed very > fast. > > Many of you knew George very well, and he will be missed. I believe he had > the first 4.6 engine coversion in PURGOLD. > > He will be missed.> > Bud Williams> > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> _______________________________________________> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> > DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 12> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:31:13 -0700> From: "Tom Di Iulio" <tomdiiulio at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] PAHRUMP HOTEL ROOMS> To: fresnofinches at aol.com> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com> Message-ID:> <6102200801172031j1fa115c4x2acc0d7da575a9ea at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > thanks for the head's up on rooms. i called saddle west today and they had> nothing for 4/30 and 5/1, wednesday and thursday nite. i did get in at the> best western.> can't wait to melt those hoosier slicks again.......> tom di iulio> denver, co> > On Jan 16, 2008 5:15 PM, <fresnofinches at aol.com> wrote:> > > All,> >> > If you are planning on overnighting in Pahrump for the PCNC> > Speed Trials, you should get your rooms reserved - NOW!!!> >> > Saddle West is already pretty full for Wednesday and Thursday,> > with nothing for Friday or? Saturday.? 775:727-1111> >> > Best Western has about 40 rooms for Wednesday and Thursday,> > and is sold out for Friday and Saturday.? 775:727-5100.? Ask for> > the Spring Mountain rate and your cost will be about $75 @ night.> >> > Do this TODAY.? You can always cancel the reservation if your> > plans change or fall through.> >> > Larry> > PCNC Motorsports Coordinator> >> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________> > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! -> > http://webmail.aol.com> > _______________________________________________> >> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA> >> > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/> >> > DeTomaso mailing list> > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> DeTomaso mailing list> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> > > End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 42, Issue 18> ****************************************
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