[DeTomaso] Feedback from someone who knows - FI & 180'S - Doheaders affect scavenging in individual cylinders?

Doug Braun doug at silicondesigns.com
Wed Feb 20 18:22:41 EST 2008


Nope, I had a Craftsman 7/16" combination wrench dipped in 90W140 I teethed
on.  Was your rattle pink or blue?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:02 PM
  To: doug at silicondesigns.com
  Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Feedback from someone who knows - FI & 180'S -
Doheaders affect scavenging in individual cylinders?


  You had a baby rattle?

  Doug Braun <doug at silicondesigns.com> wrote:
    Hey MD,

    Kinda makes ya miss your old baby rattle doesn't it?

    Doug Braun
    blue 73L #5505

    -----Original Message-----
    From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
    [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
    Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:59 AM
    To: Peter Kovacs
    Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Feedback from someone who knows - FI & 180'S -
    Doheaders affect scavenging in individual cylinders?


    We just started the engine.....all the extra parts sounds GREAT!
    And you no doubt already know that one of the problems with EFI is it
    smooths out cam lop and improves driveability.....so honestly even a
550HP
    Cleveland stroker like mine sounds tame with EFI...the nuts and bolts
just
    kinna jump around inside the 8 throttle bodies, make a lot of noise and
make
    everyone think you really have 750 HP.

    Dawg

    Peter Kovacs wrote:
    Not if it doesn't run. See, there is a benefit to being a trailer queen,
    show car!

    Mad Dog Antenucci wrote: Hey question for you wise-acres on this List,

    Dick Drenske and I may have dropped about a 100 stainless steel screws
and
    washers inside the 8 open throttle bodies.

    Could this harm the engine?

    Dawg, still waiting for me filters

    asajay at asajay.com wrote:
    Dats cause granpers usually da bad one, cuz.

    Asa Jay


    Quoting Mike Trusty :

    > Sorry about the grammar. I'd done went and would have checked her if
I'd
    > knowed he were goin to go an send it to da foreign. :-)
    >
    >
    >
    > For some reason my spell checker doesn't check for bad grammar.
    >
    >
    >
    > And, Ken, EVERYTHING effects cylinder to cylinder charging. That's why
    most
    > quality injection ECU's allow for trimming.
    >
    >
    >
    > Mike Trusty Engineering
    >
    > 15119 Gorgeous View Trail
    >
    > Little Rock, AR 72210
    >
    > Ph: 501-224-9013
    >
    > Fax: 501-421-0151
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:00 PM
    > To: detomaso at realbig.com
    > Cc: Miketrusty at msn.com; ddrenske at murraycompany.com
    > Subject: Feedback from someone who knows - FI & 180'S - Do headers
affect
    > scavenging in individual cylinders?
    >
    >
    >
    > Ken & other Speculators,
    >
    >
    >
    > Thought I would share below what Mike Trusty sent me on the EFI lean
out
    > concern Ken addressed.
    >
    >
    >
    > Dawg
    >
    > Mike Trusty wrote:
    >
    > In an engine running on the edge that may be a problem but not on an
    engine
    > that will be running basically rich at full throttle like yours will
be.
    >
    >
    >
    > BUT, in the turning process you have the ability with YOUR system to
trim
    > the fuel and the advance for each individual cylinder. If you were
using
    > individual exhaust gas temperature probes you could see the exhaust
    > temperature from each cylinder and adjust the fuel delivery to that
    > cylinder. This can also be done by reading the spark plugs. You can do
a
    > full throttle acceleration then coast to at stop and read the plugs.
You
    > can then, with YOUR system, adjust each individual cylinder enrichment
to
    > either lean the cylinder or enrichen it to make each one the same.
BUT,
    > again, it's just not something that you need to worry about. Its fuzz
on a
    > nats back but you can trim that fuzz if it offends you.
    >
    >
    >
    > There other things that effect the same thing cylinder to cylinder.
The
    > injectors may not flow the same. If you flow test the injectors and
find
    > that one flows 5% less fuel than the other seven injectors you don't
have
    to
    > throw it away and buy another. With YOUR system all you do is give
that
    one
    > cylinder/injector a pulse width that is 5% more than the other seven.
More
    > fuzz that you actually don't need to worry about but can if you want
to.
    >
    >
    >
    > As I said about you can even advance and retard the timing to each
    > individual cylinder if the need is noticed. You can have #1 cylinder
    firing
    > at 36 degrees advance and the #2 cylinder firing at 24 degrees on the
same
    > stroke is you so desire.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Mike Trusty Engineering
    >
    > 15119 Gorgeous View Trail
    >
    > Little Rock, AR 72210
    >
    > Ph: 501-224-9013
    >
    > Fax: 501-421-0151
    >
    >
    > _____
    >
    >
    > From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:36 PM
    > To: miketrusty at msn.com
    > Subject: FI & 180'S Fwd: Re: [DeTomaso] SPC - Do headers affect
scavenging
    > in individual cylinders?
    >
    >
    >
    > Care to comment on Ken's email on tendency of FI leaning out?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Note: forwarded message attached.
    >
    >
    >
    > Mad Dawg Antenucci
    > Team Pantera Racing
    >
    > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
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    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Mad Dawg Antenucci
    > Team Pantera Racing
    >
    > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
    > www.teampanteraracing.com
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