[DeTomaso] Feedback from someone who knows - FI & 180'S - Doheaders affect scavenging in individual cylinders?

Doug Braun doug at silicondesigns.com
Wed Feb 20 15:22:29 EST 2008


Hey MD,

	Kinda makes ya miss your old baby rattle doesn't it?

Doug Braun
blue 73L #5505

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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:59 AM
To: Peter Kovacs
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Feedback from someone who knows - FI & 180'S -
Doheaders affect scavenging in individual cylinders?


We just started the engine.....all the extra parts sounds GREAT!
  And you no doubt already know that one of the problems with EFI is it
smooths out cam lop and improves driveability.....so honestly even a 550HP
Cleveland stroker like mine sounds tame with EFI...the nuts and bolts just
kinna jump around inside the 8 throttle bodies, make a lot of noise and make
everyone think you really have 750 HP.

  Dawg

Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  Not if it doesn't run. See, there is a benefit to being a trailer queen,
show car!

Mad Dog Antenucci wrote: Hey question for you wise-acres on this List,

Dick Drenske and I may have dropped about a 100 stainless steel screws and
washers inside the 8 open throttle bodies.

Could this harm the engine?

Dawg, still waiting for me filters

asajay at asajay.com wrote:
Dats cause granpers usually da bad one, cuz.

Asa Jay


Quoting Mike Trusty :

> Sorry about the grammar. I'd done went and would have checked her if I'd
> knowed he were goin to go an send it to da foreign. :-)
>
>
>
> For some reason my spell checker doesn't check for bad grammar.
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>
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> And, Ken, EVERYTHING effects cylinder to cylinder charging. That's why
most
> quality injection ECU's allow for trimming.
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> Mike Trusty Engineering
>
> 15119 Gorgeous View Trail
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> Little Rock, AR 72210
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> Ph: 501-224-9013
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> From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:00 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Cc: Miketrusty at msn.com; ddrenske at murraycompany.com
> Subject: Feedback from someone who knows - FI & 180'S - Do headers affect
> scavenging in individual cylinders?
>
>
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> Ken & other Speculators,
>
>
>
> Thought I would share below what Mike Trusty sent me on the EFI lean out
> concern Ken addressed.
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>
> Dawg
>
> Mike Trusty wrote:
>
> In an engine running on the edge that may be a problem but not on an
engine
> that will be running basically rich at full throttle like yours will be.
>
>
>
> BUT, in the turning process you have the ability with YOUR system to trim
> the fuel and the advance for each individual cylinder. If you were using
> individual exhaust gas temperature probes you could see the exhaust
> temperature from each cylinder and adjust the fuel delivery to that
> cylinder. This can also be done by reading the spark plugs. You can do a
> full throttle acceleration then coast to at stop and read the plugs. You
> can then, with YOUR system, adjust each individual cylinder enrichment to
> either lean the cylinder or enrichen it to make each one the same. BUT,
> again, it's just not something that you need to worry about. Its fuzz on a
> nats back but you can trim that fuzz if it offends you.
>
>
>
> There other things that effect the same thing cylinder to cylinder. The
> injectors may not flow the same. If you flow test the injectors and find
> that one flows 5% less fuel than the other seven injectors you don't have
to
> throw it away and buy another. With YOUR system all you do is give that
one
> cylinder/injector a pulse width that is 5% more than the other seven. More
> fuzz that you actually don't need to worry about but can if you want to.
>
>
>
> As I said about you can even advance and retard the timing to each
> individual cylinder if the need is noticed. You can have #1 cylinder
firing
> at 36 degrees advance and the #2 cylinder firing at 24 degrees on the same
> stroke is you so desire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Trusty Engineering
>
> 15119 Gorgeous View Trail
>
> Little Rock, AR 72210
>
> Ph: 501-224-9013
>
> Fax: 501-421-0151
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:36 PM
> To: miketrusty at msn.com
> Subject: FI & 180'S Fwd: Re: [DeTomaso] SPC - Do headers affect scavenging
> in individual cylinders?
>
>
>
> Care to comment on Ken's email on tendency of FI leaning out?
>
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> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
>
>
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
>
> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> www.teampanteraracing.com
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>
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
>
> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> www.teampanteraracing.com
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