[DeTomaso] starting problems

[Tom Baranek-Home]

Roger...I replace a starter about every 10 years.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
To: "'Tom Baranek-Home'" <tbaranek at earthlink.net>; <JDeRyke at aol.com>; 
<edlebby at yahoo.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] starting problems


> The reason the starters do not work well when hot is that the bushings at
> each end expand. The armature then has a hard time spinning. It is a 
> simple
> job to replace them if you are into that kind of thing.
>
> Look for the old guy in town that still rebuilds starters out back. He can
> bring back you old starter to life for small dollars. I would also put on
> one of the heat shields too.
>
> Larry (no $) - Cleveland
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Tom Baranek-Home
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:20 AM
> To: JDeRyke at aol.com; edlebby at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] starting problems
>
> I don't need to break the bank...but I am having the same issue on my 
> STOCK
> (except Holley and headers) '73.
> Vendor/$ for a "reasonable" plug and play starter?
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "JDeRyke at aol.com"  <JDeRyke at aol.com>
> To: edlebby at yahoo.com;  detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:18:11  PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] starting problems
>
> In a message dated  2/13/08 11:51:26 AM, edlebby at yahoo.com writes:
> snip.....
>
> whenever  the car stops, after fully warmed up, and i try to restart it, 
> the
>
> starter  motor is extremely sluggish, might turn over once...pause a 
> second
> or
> two...again...and so on - the only way it will restart is if the pedal is
> at
> WOT - at first i thought it was the starter engine...but then JT said it
> was
> probably the battery - so put new connectors on the battery cables, 
> cleaned
>
> the zf ground and the starter wires - that improved things alot for 
> awhile -
>
> but now i am back to where i was (even worse) - thoughts?
>
>
> This  could be the result of a minor carb malfunction, but my first move 
> is
> to add a  SECOND large diameter ground wire running from a shiny bare spot
> on
> the  subframe to either the engine block or the ZF cases- sometimes both!
> Then
> I'd  swap the stock starter for a modern gear-drive mini-starter; there 
> are
> many  brands our vendors sell that fit properly & will spin a
> high-compression
> engine far better than any stock one. My 12-yr-old McLeod mini-starter-
> based
> on the Hitachi starter motor, spins a smoking-hot 10-1/2:1 compression 
> 351-C
>
> almost as rapidly as when the engine is cold. All gear-drive starters are
> about half the weight and physically smaller, so the starter is unaffected
> by
> header heat without the need for a shield. Try these & let us know how 
> they
>
> work- J DeRyke
>
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