[DeTomaso] starting problems

[Larry - Ohio Time Corp]

The reason the starters do not work well when hot is that the bushings at
each end expand. The armature then has a hard time spinning. It is a simple
job to replace them if you are into that kind of thing.

Look for the old guy in town that still rebuilds starters out back. He can
bring back you old starter to life for small dollars. I would also put on
one of the heat shields too.

Larry (no $) - Cleveland



-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Baranek-Home
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:20 AM
To: JDeRyke at aol.com; edlebby at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] starting problems

I don't need to break the bank...but I am having the same issue on my STOCK
(except Holley and headers) '73.
Vendor/$ for a "reasonable" plug and play starter?

----- Original Message ----
From: "JDeRyke at aol.com"  <JDeRyke at aol.com>
To: edlebby at yahoo.com;  detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:18:11  PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] starting problems

In a message dated  2/13/08 11:51:26 AM, edlebby at yahoo.com writes:
snip.....

whenever  the car stops, after fully warmed up, and i try to restart it, the

starter  motor is extremely sluggish, might turn over once...pause a second
or 
two...again...and so on - the only way it will restart is if the pedal is
at 
WOT - at first i thought it was the starter engine...but then JT said it
was 
probably the battery - so put new connectors on the battery cables, cleaned

the zf ground and the starter wires - that improved things alot for awhile -

but now i am back to where i was (even worse) - thoughts?


This  could be the result of a minor carb malfunction, but my first move is 
to add a  SECOND large diameter ground wire running from a shiny bare spot
on 
the  subframe to either the engine block or the ZF cases- sometimes both!
Then 
I'd  swap the stock starter for a modern gear-drive mini-starter; there are 
many  brands our vendors sell that fit properly & will spin a
high-compression  
engine far better than any stock one. My 12-yr-old McLeod mini-starter-
based  
on the Hitachi starter motor, spins a smoking-hot 10-1/2:1 compression 351-C

almost as rapidly as when the engine is cold. All gear-drive starters are  
about half the weight and physically smaller, so the starter is unaffected
by  
header heat without the need for a shield. Try these & let us know how  they

work- J DeRyke

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Senior Sales Engineer-North America
Air Movement Division
Tom Baranek
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Phone +1 (336) 834-9339 - Fax +1 (336) 834-9340
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