[DeTomaso] starting problems
SEL
edlebby at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 13 19:32:54 EST 2008
thx guys!
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From: Ed Pike <erpike at cs.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:34:15 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] starting problems
Just to add my two cents, same circumstances and I fixed it with a hi torque
starter as well.
Ed....
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] starting problems
My problem similar to this went like this:
Battery good. Original starter. When cold car would start just fine.
When
hot car would hardly turn over sometimes taking 3 tries to start. Before
it
would start often I would smell gas as if it flooded. Usually holding the
pedal to the floor would help the car finally start. I tried all the usual
suggestions, battery, grounding, carb adjustment suggested by the forum.
The
last thing I did was replace the starter per a forum suggestion. Problem
solved. Engine starts hot or cold now. Problem went away. Bye the way I
went
with the Tilton starter. A bit up there in price but works great.
Richard
In a message dated 2/13/2008 2:03:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time (Mex,
edlebby at yahoo.com writes:
George, Jack - many thanks - I will look in to all of this.
Jack - what gauge wire is "large" in your book...10g?
George...one follow on question...what you say makes good sense for the
shut
off restart when warm...that is i am being left with a flooded
condition...but why would that cause the starter to be so sluggish? - i was
kind of
thinking that the heat was effecting it...but "i don't know nuttin!" -
also, does
the needle and seat root cause explain the cold start problems for you? -
thanks! - stephen
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From: "JDeRyke at aol.com" <JDeRyke at aol.com>
To: edlebby at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:18:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] starting problems
In a message dated 2/13/08 11:51:26 AM, edlebby at yahoo.com writes:
snip.....
whenever the car stops, after fully warmed up, and i try to restart it, the
starter motor is extremely sluggish, might turn over once...pause a second
or
two...again...and so on - the only way it will restart is if the pedal is
at
WOT - at first i thought it was the starter engine...but then JT said it
was
probably the battery - so put new connectors on the battery cables, cleaned
the zf ground and the starter wires - that improved things alot for awhile -
but now i am back to where i was (even worse) - thoughts?
This could be the result of a minor carb malfunction, but my first move is
to add a SECOND large diameter ground wire running from a shiny bare spot
on
the subframe to either the engine block or the ZF cases- sometimes both!
Then
I'd swap the stock starter for a modern gear-drive mini-starter; there are
many brands our vendors sell that fit properly & will spin a
high-compression
engine far better than any stock one. My 12-yr-old McLeod mini-starter-
based
on the Hitachi starter motor, spins a smoking-hot 10-1/2:1 compression 351-C
almost as rapidly as when the engine is cold. All gear-drive starters are
about half the weight and physically smaller, so the starter is unaffected
by
header heat without the need for a shield. Try these & let us know how they
work- J DeRyke
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