[DeTomaso] Pantera brake rotor swap

[Ken Green]

I'm not sure how they compare to the Volvo rotors, but we are putting together the adapters and parts list to use Porsche 996 calipers.  You can buy a set of decent base line 996 calipers for about $600 and 996 Turbo calipers for maybe $800.  The 996 turbo calipers are made for 13 inch rotors so the pads match the arc of a 13 inch rotor, you might want to check the arc on the Volvo pads.  There also are a lot of performance pad options for the 996 calipers.  Regarding overall quality, I can't say anything about the Volvo calipers (I'm srue they are good quality), but the 996 calipers are suppose to be excellent and are used in a lot of conversions.  The 996 calipers are radial mount which makes them a good choice for custom applications.  I don't know how the Volvo calipers mount.
 
We are using Wilwood hats with 13 inch vented and slotted Coleman rotors, they cost about $1,000 for all four hats and rotors, and the shop that is making the brackets to bolt the calipers on said $150 for all four brackets.  This needs at least 17 inch wheels for the 13 inch rotors.
 
This is part of the bearing and hub assembly/billet carrier/930 CV half shaft upgrade that is FINALLY about ready to roll out after 3 years of low budget development (fill in work at the shop).  The billet carriers have been test fitted to a car owned by a "Tim" in Santa Rosa I think, and they are pretty much done.  Just need to address some minor details.  This actually provides the current state of the art in wheel bearings and half shafts, and the final cost should be very reasonable.
 
Ken
 


--- On Wed, 12/31/08, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera brake rotor swap
To: "'Thomas Borcich'" <tborcich at msn.com>
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 6:22 AM

Tom
 
Interesting idea.  I've heard about folks using the Volvo calipers for just
the reason you mention, but I've not heard yet of anyone using the later
model Mustang rotor.  The SSBC rotor that I and others have used is for a 66
Mustang, which is an integral hub/rotor unit.  I did a search on the SSBC
site, and they have changed the product slightly.  It is now only available
(at least on the website) with the extra-life coating and with a set of
pads) for $249.  When I did mine, they were available with or without the
coating, and not with pads.  Looks to be the same unit though, and you could
call them to find out.  The '69 rotors they show are a rotor only, no
integral hub.
 
66 replacement
http://www.ssbrakes.com/products/detail/438/?make=Ford
<http://www.ssbrakes.com/products/detail/438/?make=Ford&model=Mustang&year=1
966> &model=Mustang&year=1966
 
69 replacement
http://www.ssbrakes.com/products/detail/440/?make=Ford
<http://www.ssbrakes.com/products/detail/440/?make=Ford&model=Mustang&year=1
969> &model=Mustang&year=1969
 
I'm forwarding this to the forum to see what the comment is.
Good luck and Happy New Year
 
Mike Thomas

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From: Thomas Borcich [mailto:tborcich at msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:16 PM
To: Pantera Mike Thomas
Subject: Pantera brake rotor swap


Hi Mike,

I was reading that you swapped your rotors out to the SBC rotors that fit a
Mustang(69?)...I have also been reading that you can take a 03-04 GT
500/Mustang 13 and 14 inch rotor and put them on the 69 mustang...therefore
you should be able to put them on the Pantera spindle just as easily??? 

Do you know if any one has successfully done that?

I will be redoing  my brakes but I figure if I'm going through 72L Girlings
(37 years old) I'll find pits etc.,  plus the rotors are original so my
thought is to swap the rotors to a bit bigger rotor and change the calipers
to a Brembo 4 piston OEM calipers that are used on a few of the "R"
sport
version Volvos. The calipers are engineered for a street car with dust seals
and should last forever and be a big improvement over stock. Plus I can
pickup them up for around $150 per caliper new. I have a friend who can
machine brackets to hang the calipers.  My wheels are Campy clones from
Coddington 17's & 18"s, so I can stuff bigger rotors and calipers
inside.
Should be pretty simple (famous last words).

Best regards, 

Tom Borcich 
#4382


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