[DeTomaso] Shifters are not created equal

Wed Dec 17 08:32:49 EST 2008

That's what my old football coach told us.

Sorry, it was just too easy.

;-)

Michael in Savannah

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:03 AM, <wkooiman at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Isn't the whole purpose of the cup to hold the balls?
>
> My shifter has the two plates.  There's the casting, and then two plates
> that are attached that are apparently a specific size to properly hold the
> ball from moving fore or aft.  It can freely move left and right.  I'm away
> from home right now, so I can't inspect it to describe it further - the
> shifter that is, not the balls.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: clay willmott <claywillmott at hotmail.com>
>  >Sent: Dec 16, 2008 8:54 PM
> >To: Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net>, Pantera Forum <
> detomaso at realbig.com>
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shifters are not created equal
> >
> >
> >Glad you bring that up.  The manual shows a small "cup" that the shifter
> ball sits in.  Mine lacks any cup but has two walls that stop the ball in
> the front to back motion but not in the side to side motion.
> >
> >I asked a few of the guys about this last year and was told that was
> normal.  If you look at the wilkinson site it clearly shows a small cup that
> the ball sits in.
> >
> >Do most of you have the cup or just the two walls that it rests between on
> only 2 sides-front and back?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:32:42 -0600
> >> From: wkooiman at earthlink.net
> >> To: claywillmott at hotmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shifters are not created equal
> >>
> >> I just sent my shifter to Dennis Q.  He rebuilt the whole thing.  He
> cleaned it up, put in a new shifter handle (probably the same one you have
> that doesn't fit properly), plus he replaced the bronze? pads at the bottom
> that keep it good and tight.  It isn't in the car yet, but it feels brand
> new.
> >>
> >> My old shifter was okay, but it squeeked, had some play typical of any
> old shifter, was scratched up, plus it would sometimes pop out of 3rd gear.
>  Dennis found that the rod (the one with the turnbuckle) was bent.  He
> straightened that too.
> >>
> >> Will.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: clay willmott <claywillmott at hotmail.com>
> >> >Sent: Dec 16, 2008 10:50 AM
> >> >To: List Pantera <detomaso at realbig.com>
> >> >Subject: [DeTomaso] Shifters are not created equal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Has anyone noticed or been bothered by the new shifters not being
> exactly as the originals in width and being "sloppy" are far as the way they
> fit resulting in free play.
> >> >
> >> >My original shifter fits very snug in the shifting mechanism and the
> brass bearing are exactly the same thickness as the new ones.  However, the
> base width of the shift rod is 0.540 inches of the new rods (excluding brass
> bearings) and 0.580 of an inch on my original.
> >> >
> >> >The result is the original fits exactly with no slop in neutral or with
> shifting and the new ones (I have now tried two) do not.  I thought it was
> the bushings and should have paid more attention although at least they were
> on sale for 60$.
> >> >My old shifter  that came with the car has a 40% full thickness notch
> from the prior owner.  I thought of welding and re-chroming but it appears
> hard to remove the brass bushing without damaging them. Any tricks here?
>  Will they melt if I weld it without removing first?
> >> >
> >> >Also, has anyone placed shims between the shift rod and shaft mount
> between the brass bushings and the snap rings to make it more snug?
> >> >I have any early 71 so this may not be the same on later models.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Clay
> >> >
> >> >
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