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--- On Mon, 12/15/08, Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] DOT-5 Brake fluid
> To: detomaso at realbig.com, adin at frontier.net
> Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 3:21 PM
> David-baby,
>  
> The data in the table came from the same StopTech article
> that Mike posted:
> http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_brakefluid_1a.shtml
>  
> I did verify a couple of the specs cited in the table with
> the manufacturers published specs 
> at the time and they checked out, but I didn't verify
> all of them. As Mike pointed out, it's 
> published data readily available from the manufacturers.
>  
> The info subsequent to the table comes from a variety of
> sources...
>  
> The 1st bullet in my previous post:
> The statement regarding Ford Heavy Duty brake fluid being
> the best kept secret by racers 
> has been repeatedly touted on this list - you can search
> the archives to find the 
> references.  I found the same thing cited on other
> online forums as well. 
> Here's a reference on another forum where they also
> list the specs of the Ford Heavy Duty brake fluid too:
> http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/BrakeFluid.htm
>  
> The Hot Rods and Horsepower claim was originally at this
> link: 
> http://www.hotrodsandhorsepower.com/101techtips/101techtips7.html (which
> is no longer online)
> I recall reading the same claim elsewhere online when I
> was researching brake fluilds, but 
> the other places were likely perpetuating the same myth
> or linking back to the same 
> source. It's amazing how quickly mis-information or
> rumor spreads across the net when 
> one person posts something to a forum and it gets picked up
> and repeated across ten 
> more automotive forums within a week. The different specs
> between the two fluids means 
> it's highly unlikely that they're the same. I
> don't need a source for that conclusion. You may
> disagree, and that's fine.
>  
> Castrol SRF specs (Here's just one source for the
> specs: http://www.performancefriction.com/pages/access.htm)
> Dry Boiling Point 310C / 590F 
> Wet Boiling Point 270C / 518F 
>   
> 
> Ford Heavy Duty specs (cannot find this fluid for
> sale online with specs, only references to 
> it in other articles and forum posts with the specs. Ford
> websites just wants to sell me cars
> or parts, not fluids, so couldn't verify there)
> Dry Boiling Point 550F 
> Wet Boiling Point 290F 
> 
>  
> And how quickly a fluid absorbs moisture is a function of
> the wet boiling point. The lower 
> the wet boiling point, the quicker it absorbs moisture.
> And, the lower likelihood of causing 
> corrosion in your braking system over the same given time
> period.  As others have pointed 
> out, this may not be a concern if you flush your fluid
> often (after every track session). But if 
> its a street car and the brake fluid will sit for 1-2 years
> before being flushed, I'd rather have a 
> fluid with a higher wet boiling point, such as the ATE
> Super Blue (or Amber). That's just my 
> opinion, but it is consistent with the recommendations on
> the Porsche, BMW, Mustang, 
> and other forums too.
>  
> The 2nd bullet in my previous post:
>  
> ATE Super Blue costs less per ounce than the Ford Heavy
> Duty brake fluid if you compare 
> the "quoted" prices in the table. Again, I
> couldn't find an online source from which to 
> purchase the Ford Heavy Duty to verify the price, and I
> didn't bother to call my local Ford 
> dealer to get a price. So, this could be incorrect. 
> Regardless, I thought the ATE Super 
> Blue was a bargain compared to any other performance brake
> fluid with a similar wet boiling 
> point spec. And, ATE is what I now use in my brake system.
>  
> Cheers!
> Garth
> 
> 
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