[DeTomaso] DOT-5 Brake luid

adin at frontier.net adin at frontier.net
Mon Dec 15 14:58:20 EST 2008


garth-baby . . .

No offense intended, where did all this info (in the tables and after)  
come from?  I believe it is important to know which info is opinion,  
experience, or data from ___________. (this goes for everyone)

thanks for all the info (pending).

David



Quoting Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>:

> I don't know that DOT 5 Silicon brake fluid is "unstable" but it is   
> compressible, which
> means a soft brake pedal. Silicon fluid is a good choice for trailer  
>  queen show cars and
> museum display vehicles because it doesn't absorb moisture. But, the  
>  compressible
> nature of the silicon fluid causes a spongy pedal, which is fine for  
>  a car that's never driven,
> other than on and off a trailer at shows, it's fine.
>
> Don't confuse DOT 5 with DOT 5.1 fluid though. DOT 5.1 is an Ethyl   
> Glycol based fluid like
> DOT 3 and DOT4 fluid and is suitable for use on a street/track driven car.
>
> ATE Super Blue Racing Brake Fluid ($11.95)
> One of the best values I could find for a high-performance brake   
> fluid (536/392 dry/wet
> boiling point), and only $12 for 33.8 oz. (I ordered from   
> www.bavauto.com)  And, the Blue
> color makes it extremely easy to see when all the old fluid is   
> flushed from your system. The
> same formula also comes in Amber/Gold to make it easy to see when   
> all the fluid is flushed
> from your brake system by alternating colors at each fluid flush.
> Blue: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/ate/ate_superblue_fluid.jsp
> Amber: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/ate/ate_type200_amber.jsp
>
>
> Here are some of the other fluids I looked at:
>
>   Brake Fluid    Dry Boiling Point   Wet Boiling Point     Price
>   AP SUPER 600         590°F               410°F        $18.00/16.9oz
>   CASTROL SRF          590°F               518°F        $69.99/33.8oz
>   NEO SUPER DOT 610    610°F               421°F        $15.00/12oz
>   MOTUL RACING 600     593°F               420°F        $15.00/16.9oz
>   MOTUL DOT 5.1        509°F               365°F        $6.50/16.9oz
> **ATE SUPER BLUE       536°F               392°F        $11.99/33.8oz**
>   VALVOLINE SYNPOWER   503°F               343°F        $4.97/16.9oz
>   ATE SL               500°F               329°F        $7.95/16.9oz
>   CASTROL LMA          450°F               311°F        $3.50/16.9oz
>   AP 551               528°F               288°F        $12.50/16.9oz
>  *Ford C6AZ-19542-AA   550°F               290°F        $6.95/12oz*
>
> * Ford Heavy Duty DOT 3 is very inexpensive and is popular among   
> racers because of its
> excellent dry boiling point. It’s considered by many to be the   
> best-kept secret in brake
> fluids.  However, IT ABSORBS MOISTURE QUICKLY!  Recommended by Baer   
> and Alcon.
> According to Hot Rods and Horsepower: "Ford Motor Company purchases   
> [Castrol SRF] by
>  the barrel, repackages it, and sells it as Ford Heavy Duty fluid to  
>  owners of heavy-duty
> trucks. Although this rumor is often repeated on the internet, the   
> two fluids have different
> specs, so the assertion seems questionable at best. You may buy it   
> from your local Ford
> dealer under part number C6AZ-19542-AA.
>
> ** ATE Super Blue DOT 4 is even LESS expensive per ounce than the   
> Ford Heavy Duty
> brake fluid, and it ABSORBS MOISTURE SLOWLY!  Note the ‘wet’ boiling  
>  point - That
> means better performance under extreme conditions (track use or a   
> spirited drive through
> the twisties). And it’s less likely to cause corrosion in your   
> braking system. That’s why I
> chose the ATE Super Blue (I’ll use Gold when I flush the brake fluid  
>  again next year). And
> the alternating color options (Blue and Gold) make it easy to tell   
> when you’re done flushing
> all the old fluid from your brake lines.  Two enthusiastic thumbs up!
> Reference: http://www.realbig.com/pipermail/detomaso/2008-July/097637.html
>
> Cheers!
> Garth
>
>
>
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