[DeTomaso] the REAL Hindenberg Hot Rod Uncertainty Principle

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 10 23:11:33 EST 2008


Chuck,
 
    Actually, the Hindenberg Hot Rod Uncertainty Principle states that you can't measure the cost of an engine and the HP at the same time, because you probably will disapointed with the engine if you try to measure the HP and have to start over and spend more money.
 
Ken  

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 351C compression
To: "Kirby Schrader" <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 6:31 PM

Dear Mr. Automotive Philosopher,


            1) Historically, many hot rod projects have been started---and a 
few have been completed--founded on hope as the plan.

             2)   Hope is a "plan" when one begins the hot rod
project with 
the concept of:  " I hope this(plan) works!"

             3)    In the absence of a plan based on logic or experience, 
hope is a common substitute

             4)   The Hindenberg Hot Rod Uncertainty Principle says that 
diasterous projects exist in limbo until actually started.  Once the project 
is started it goes KABLOOEY over everything spreading dismay, dispair and 
unhappiness as well as the over-budget condition.   Hope is the only known 
counteracting subatomic particle that can begin to resist this action.


                              I hope this makes sense....... Chuck Engles 
:-)




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirby Schrader" <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
To: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
Cc: "Pantera Forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 351C compression


>
> Gosh, guys.... Since when is 'hope' a plan?
>
> :-)
>
>
> On 10 Dec 2008, at 6:58 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
>
>> Dear Tom,
>>
>>
>>                 As Jack said earlier hotrodding (and engine  building)
is 
>> based on hope.
>>
>>                 Please check the link below for a compression ratio 
>> calculator that will let you enter your various parameters and see 
what 
>> effect it has on the compression ratio.
>>
>>
>>
>> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link 
>> attachments:
>> Shortcut to: http://www.fordmuscle.com/calculators/compression.shtml
>>
>>
>>             You say the engine is sitting on the stand?  It is *not* 
>> sitting in the Pantera??   You said, "but I have the
disease....the 
>> motor is sitting on the stand and I know it can make more
horsepower."
>>
>>             Gee, it would be my position that since the engine is 
*right 
>> there*, it should be irresistible to begin to make more  horsepower. 
>> How much do you want?   How big is your budget?   Even  if you're
not 
>> ready for Kaase tricked out killer aluminum heads,  then there is
still a 
>> number of straightforward improvements you can  make with the engine
out. 
>> It is a slipperly slope and you should  ponder how far you can
tolerate 
>> sliding downwards toward the  seductive deep reservoir of addictive 
>> torqu....uh, umm, ....I am  sorry.   I got carried away.  Sorry.
>>
>>              Really, strip it down to the short block.   Check your 
>> bearings.  Change to a roller timing chain.   Figure out what heads 
you 
>> want.  If they're stock Cleveland open or closed heads, then you 
>> shouldn't need to run flow tests to find the flow numbers for you 
heads. 
>> Call the cam company of your choice and tell them exactly  what heads,

>> compression ratio, and intake you have.   Then tell them  what
you'd like 
>> to get out of said components and have them  recommend a cam.   Buy
the 
>> cam of your choice with appropriate new  valve springs, add roller
rocker 
>> arms, check the valve train  geometry, get your carb rebuilt by
someone 
>> like Chuck Nuytten.    Reassemble.   Dyno test so you * know* what
you've 
>> got and pop it  back in.  Great fun for a winter project.    Just 
>> remember that you  have to remember when to say "when".
>>
>>
>>                            Good luck,  Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
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