[DeTomaso] allowing detroit to fail

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I knew Chrysler was making tanks, but never knew that GM was making  guidance 
& navigation systems for the military.  Hello this is OnStar,  we show you've 
just taken a hit, do you need a medic?  Probably not far  from the truth.  
I've watched over the years as steel mills and coke plants  in OH, MI, and PA 
closed because cheaper steel was being produced in other parts  of the world, in 
countries whose governments subsidized the industry, and paid  lower wages.  
I wondered about our national security, and our ability to  produce materials 
like steel, if those countries cut us off.  I had hoped  that our leaders had 
it under control....  I read some time ago, and I have  not checked this out 
on Snopes, that while we still produce much of the world's  specialty steel, we 
don't have the capacity to produce enough steel domestically  to rebuild the 
twin towers.  It doesn't take long, just one or  two generations for the 
skilled workforce to disappear.  Many aspects  of sending a manned mission to the 
moon, would be, at this point starting from  scratch.  The engineers have long 
ago retired and the hands on  experience building that kind of vehicle are 
gone.  Maybe new ideas  are better....  It could be a green mission to the 
moon...   
 
Ron in Akron
 
 

 
In a message dated 12/10/2008 10:55:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kenn_green at yahoo.com writes:

I don't  think any of us want Detroit to fail, we believe that they need to 
enter  Chapter 11 and reorganize.  I have no problem with the government  
guaranteeing loans after the reorganization.  I also have contacted my 2  senators 
and congresswoman (all liberal Democrats) and specifically asked  if it is 
true that UAW members are making $150K, and if so, why are we bailing  them out.  
I have not received any answers, which tells me it is  true.  Another example 
of how a special interest (the UAW in the  instance) owns the Democratic 
Party.

I bought a Buick Regal GS in  98, and only sold it after 180,000 great miles 
because little things kept  failing.  I liked it so much, that I bought 
another a couple years ago  with 30,000 on it (it had been discontinued by Buick) 
and hope to drive  it for a few more years.  It is the best car I ever owned, 
and I think  the best styled sedan I've ever owned, even after 10 years.  0-60 
in  6.6, and 30+ MPG at 70.  It's a great car.  But of course, Buick  dropped 
it and I think the replacement sucks.  

I have never  bought a Japanese car, but appreciate the recognized fact that 
they  forced Detroit to quit making junk. 

Ken


--- On  Wed, 12/10/08, j g <notstock at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: j g  <notstock at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] allowing detroit to  fail
To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net, detomaso at realbig.com, Fresnofinches at aol.com,  
kenn_green at yahoo.com, MikeLDrew at aol.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008,  7:20 AM

Nice to hear all the rants about border security, national  security etc from
all the extreme  right wing , Then immediately   behind that we hear how 
Detroit
should be allowed to fail with a lot of  emotional reasons about foreign 
(junk)
being better than American iron.  yada yada yada 

WEll wake up the industrial might that allow the good  old USA to stay secure
has come in many forms from Detroit, DEtroit stopped  producing cars during 
ww2
and geared up for the war  that allowed us  to beat the MITSUBISHI ,KAWASAKI<
SUZUKI< BMW< MERCEDES BENZ ,  PORSCHE produced enemy war machines . Allison
produced aircraft , ship and  tank motors and still does. Chrysler  still
produces the M1 tank with  allison turbine engines. 
Allison produced the first commercial jet engines  for American jet aircraft,
they still produce large portions of the ground  equipment for aircraft and
shipboard support.and turbine , diesel and gas  support equipment, The 
computers
used in everything from the titan II  launch vehicles to the F-16 were and are
all designed and produced by DELCO  (GM) 
The inertial navigation platforms on all 747 aircraft , and required  for all
trans oceanic flight are all carousel 4 and 5 systems designed and  produced 
by
GM ,  All the military vehicles are produced by Detroit in  some fashion from
engines, chassis parts to full vehicles. Including The  chrysler tanks and 
heavy
vehicles. 

So BY screwing detroit in either  not bailing them out or by buying and
supporting our old enemies companies  equipment  you are screwing the national
security and strength of our  nation . You are being essentially 
traitors to your own country at the  expense of your own greed .

YES this is harsh but think about  it.

jg





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