[DeTomaso] allowing detroit to fail

shelbygt shelbygt at cfu.net
Wed Dec 10 11:26:45 EST 2008


The $150k number sounds like an exception rather than the rule.  Maybe if 
they lived at work and never went home.  Union bashers are known to 
exaggerate.  I'm not Union, but not so naive as to not recognize that their 
sacrifices benefit us all.  The reason Unions came about in the first place 
was because of exploitation of employees.

Unions are for the benefit of us all.  PERIOD.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>; <Fresnofinches at aol.com>; 
<MikeLDrew at aol.com>; <notstock at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] allowing detroit to fail


>I don't think any of us want Detroit to fail, we believe that they need to 
>enter Chapter 11 and reorganize. I have no problem with the government 
>guaranteeing loans after the reorganization. I also have contacted my 2 
>senators and congresswoman (all liberal Democrats) and specifically asked 
>if it is true that UAW members are making $150K, and if so, why are we 
>bailing them out. I have not received any answers, which tells me it is 
>true. Another example of how a special interest (the UAW in the instance) 
>owns the Democratic Party.
>
> I bought a Buick Regal GS in 98, and only sold it after 180,000 great 
> miles because little things kept failing. I liked it so much, that I 
> bought another a couple years ago with 30,000 on it (it had been 
> discontinued by Buick) and hope to drive it for a few more years. It is 
> the best car I ever owned, and I think the best styled sedan I've ever 
> owned, even after 10 years. 0-60 in 6.6, and 30+ MPG at 70. It's a great 
> car. But of course, Buick dropped it and I think the replacement sucks.
>
> I have never bought a Japanese car, but appreciate the recognized fact 
> that they forced Detroit to quit making junk.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/10/08, j g <notstock at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: j g <notstock at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] allowing detroit to fail
> To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net, detomaso at realbig.com, Fresnofinches at aol.com, 
> kenn_green at yahoo.com, MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 7:20 AM
>
> Nice to hear all the rants about border security, national security etc 
> from
> all the extreme  right wing , Then immediately  behind that we hear how 
> Detroit
> should be allowed to fail with a lot of emotional reasons about foreign 
> (junk)
> being better than American iron. yada yada yada
>
> WEll wake up the industrial might that allow the good old USA to stay 
> secure
> has come in many forms from Detroit, DEtroit stopped producing cars during 
> ww2
> and geared up for the war  that allowed us to beat the MITSUBISHI 
> ,KAWASAKI<
> SUZUKI< BMW< MERCEDES BENZ , PORSCHE produced enemy war machines . Allison
> produced aircraft , ship and tank motors and still does. Chrysler  still
> produces the M1 tank with allison turbine engines.
> Allison produced the first commercial jet engines for American jet 
> aircraft,
> they still produce large portions of the ground equipment for aircraft and
> shipboard support.and turbine , diesel and gas support equipment, The 
> computers
> used in everything from the titan II launch vehicles to the F-16 were and 
> are
> all designed and produced by DELCO (GM)
> The inertial navigation platforms on all 747 aircraft , and required for 
> all
> trans oceanic flight are all carousel 4 and 5 systems designed and 
> produced by
> GM ,  All the military vehicles are produced by Detroit in some fashion 
> from
> engines, chassis parts to full vehicles. Including The chrysler tanks and 
> heavy
> vehicles.
>
> So BY screwing detroit in either not bailing them out or by buying and
> supporting our old enemies companies equipment  you are screwing the 
> national
> security and strength of our nation . You are being essentially
> traitors to your own country at the expense of your own greed .
>
> YES this is harsh but think about it.
>
> jg
>
>
>
>
>
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