[DeTomaso] Fw: Re: LS3 in Pantera?

[Dan Courtney]

Yes, that was in the red Winged Warrior, 351c.
The Beast is a yellow track only car. I've been up the past couple of hours 
looking up the specs for this used sbc for sale. Kinda weird, 3.33 stroke 
crank (Crower Ultra Light Weight, 4.125 bore Bowtie block and Oliver 6.25" 
rods, plus machined Vortec heads).
I'm guessing the guy was racing Sprint cars and was limited to 350 ci?
It seems like an engine that would accelerate quickly but not much top end?
I just had my Lunati Racer series forged steel crank repaired and it's 3.75" 
stroke. I was running it with 6" Lentz rods.
The 4.06 Bowtie block has a crack in the lifter gallery that could be 
repaired with pins but would be questionable.
Perhaps I use the 4.125 Bowtie with the 3.75" Lunati crank and either the 6" 
Lentz or 6.25" Olivers?
I don't think the Vortec cast heads will do the job but they can serve to 
get The Beast back on the track until I get a good set of aluminum heads (my 
Brodix Track 1's got too hot at Silver State and will spend the rest of 
their life as expensive wheel stops).
The Winged Warrior just got converted to 2bbl heads (for $2k!-Ferrara 
valves, etc). I hope I don't lose the top end.

Dan
Dan F. Courtney


Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
La Jolla, CA

Phone (858) 551-5455
Fax (858) 551-5456

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
To: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at excaliburre.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [DeTomaso] LS3 in Pantera?


> Yeah, yeah! Now I "remember." Didn't you "lead" a Mt. Charleston run 
> during a POCA gathering and you stopped at the bottom of the hill? I was 
> with another PCNC member in my car. We were going 130 MPH downhill! I 
> think my C-block is tired and needs a changeout. I can't go over 125. The 
> heads are M-block 2V units.  That's probably the reason. Cal.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/10/08, Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net>
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [DeTomaso] LS3 in Pantera?
>> To: catman351 at yahoo.com
>> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:39 AM
>> Yes, "The Beast" during the September Silver
>> State.
>> It was a Bowtie 4 bolt 350 main with Lentz 6" rods,
>> 383" right?
>>
>> Dan
>> Dan F. Courtney
>>
>>
>> Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
>> La Jolla, CA
>>
>> Phone (858) 551-5455
>> Fax (858) 551-5456
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at excaliburre.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [DeTomaso] LS3 in Pantera?
>>
>>
>> >I have a 1977 Chevy 4 bolt main truck "O1O"
>> truck block I'd like to play
>> >around with in a stroker configuration (383). I'd
>> probably like to do a hot
>> >rod truck or install it in a Chevy musclecar. Who
>> knows? BTW, what did you
>> >grenade your engine in? The Pantera?
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Dan Courtney
>> <dfcex at excaliburre.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Dan Courtney <dfcex at excaliburre.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [DeTomaso] LS3 in Pantera?
>> >> To: catman351 at yahoo.com
>> >> Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 6:34 PM
>> >> Cal,
>> >>
>> >> It's pretty close to what I just grenaded,
>> just a
>> >> different stoke & heads
>> >> but the same Bowtie block.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >> Dan F. Courtney
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
>> >> La Jolla, CA
>> >>
>> >> Phone (858) 551-5455
>> >> Fax (858) 551-5456
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>> >> To: "Dan Courtney"
>> <dfcex at excaliburre.com>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:09 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [DeTomaso] LS3 in Pantera?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Nice. Please apprise me of your build. I take
>> it you
>> >> are going to shoehorn
>> >> > that into the P-car? Cal.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Dan Courtney
>> >> <dfcex at excaliburre.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> From: Dan Courtney
>> <dfcex at excaliburre.com>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [DeTomaso] LS3 in
>> Pantera?
>> >> >> To: catman351 at yahoo.com
>> >> >> Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 6:07 PM
>> >> >> Cool.
>> >> >> I just found a used sbc Bowtie block with
>> Crower
>> >> >> lightweight crank and
>> >> >> Oliver 6.25 rods with Vortec heads for
>> sale
>> >> locally.
>> >> >> I may offer him $2k and get it rebuilt.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dan
>> >> >> Dan F. Courtney
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
>> >> >> La Jolla, CA
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Phone (858) 551-5455
>> >> >> Fax (858) 551-5456
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: "C E"
>> <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> To: "Dan Courtney"
>> >> <dfcex at excaliburre.com>
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:53 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [DeTomaso] LS3 in
>> Pantera?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi Dan:
>> >> >> > A Bill Abate in PCNC took a Donovan
>> aluminum
>> >> SBC from
>> >> >> his race Corvette
>> >> >> > and had it installed into his
>> Pantera. You
>> >> may want to
>> >> >> look up someone in
>> >> >> > that chapter for some past issues of
>> the
>> >> newsletter
>> >> >> containing this info.
>> >> >> > In the meantime, let me look up me
>> emails and
>> >> see if I
>> >> >> can find any of his
>> >> >> > posts to me.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >