[DeTomaso] NPC: Re: japanese technology Animated water fountain
Ken Green
kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 7 09:01:58 EST 2008
Will,
I totally agree about the harm free trade has caused to the average employee, but there is another side to the story. The American auto makers pretty much quite improving cars in the 60s and seemed to have decided they just needed to change styling enough to make older models look old. I think they would still be selling restyled 65 chevys getting 9 MPG and falling apart after 50,000 miles if they could have. But higher oil prices and better Japanese cars came along in the 70s, and Detroit was forced to make better cars. If we didn't allow imports, I doubt Detroit would have changed much.
I suppose we could have an "imports court" that could limit imports that were not technically superior to products made here, but I would be afraid that it would become political. Russia tried a system where the best and brightest were suppose to manage the economy for the greatest good, and it appears to have created an inefficient bureaucratic mess.
I wish I knew how much more products would really cost if they were made here. Sometimes I suspect that most of the savings from foreign manufactured products go to profits and bonuses, not to lower prices. I'd be willing to pay a little more of wait a little longer for a bigger better TV if it was made here.
Ken
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Re: japanese technology Animated water fountain
To: "'Asa Jay Laughton'" <asajay at asajay.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:39 PM
And that's one of the reasons free trade doesn't work.
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Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:22 PM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Re: japanese technology Animated water fountain
Reminds me of a product we developed about 12 years ago, a handheld
computer used for meter reading. On a trip to the far east a few years
later, one of our engineers saw an ad for a very similar looking
handheld. They managed to actually get their hands on one and took it
apart. It was exactly the same as ours, except with a few mold changes
(corner radiuses) and electronic parts changes (different vendor
parts). Otherwise it was an identical copy.
What made us laugh, was that it was an identical copy of our -failed-
earlier design.
But Boy'ds point is none the less, valid!
We'll sue the crap out of someone here who tries to leverage a design
and make it better to produce an even better product, increasing
competition and innovation, when overseas, they don't care, we can't
touch them.
I'm all for better protections to keep our products from being
replicated overseas, but you know what, the first person who takes one
home overseas can probably sell it for a years wages to some cheap
knock-off house. They've taken reverse engineering to a whole new level.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
1971 Mach I Mustang [ASA JAY]
1973 Pantera L 5533 [ASASCAT]
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boyd casey wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HeUixe_Lpg
>
> It is no wonder the Japanese are so far ahead of us in the car
> business.This link is to a video that is just a water fountain, but look
> what they have done with "just a water fountain". But I bet the
> technology uses the micro chips and computer hardware that was developed
by
> US companies. We basically invented the mass produced auto and the
assembly
> line that made mass production possible. But we have since relinquished
our
> manufacturing to other countries that have lower labor costs.
Unfortunately
> countries like China and Russia also do not recognize patents and
copyrights
> and licensing agreements . So what good is it having a brain trust when we
> then turn over our secretes to people who steal our intellectual property
> manufacture it at a fraction of our cost and then sell the finished
product
> all over the world ( and back to us!) at a tidy profit because they
don't
> have to pay for the ideas that we spent billions of dollars on in
R&D.
We
> need to get smart and start treating our ideas like state secrets and
> protect ourselves against commercial espionage just like we do military
> espionage.The Chinesse will execute someone if they catch them trying to
> export the screts of Chinese silk production. We won the fight against
> Communism but we are losing the war of world economic power.In fact we
are
> giving it up with out a fight. These US based companies that are really
> mulitinational corporations have no loyalty to the USA. There only loyalty
> is to a buck or yen or euro the bottom line is the bottom line. It's
time
to
> wake up and stop these multi national corporations from selling our
economy
> and our future down the river.
>
> Boyd
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