[DeTomaso] fuel cell as oil cooler ???

msm at portata.com msm at portata.com
Wed Aug 13 17:36:38 EDT 2008


I knew that I remembered something about fuel heaters, so I googled
around about it.  

 

It's just a diesel issue not a gas issue, so I was off but ...

 

 

 

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From: michaelsavga at gmail.com [mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com] On Behalf
Of michael at michaelshortt.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:58 PM
To: msm at portata.com
Cc: DeTomaso Forum
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] fuel cell as oil cooler ???

 

WTF?

 

No, no, no

 

cold dense air is why cars run better on cooler days, more air in the
cylinders, thus more power.

 

Same as why Nitro engines make 8,000 HP, more air, the compression ratio
in a Top Fuel/Funny car is only 3 or 4 to 1.

 

Back in the glory days of NHRA my Day raced a 389 GTO tri-power and my
job was to go to the concession stand and get ice to put into a "cold
can" which looked like a quart sized paint can filled with a copper line
coiled around the inside ( looking like an inside out still ) where the
ice was dumped and the fuel would then be routed through the copper,
getting colder, before going into the carbs.

 

Hot gas makes vapor lock in a card fiited car.

 

Michael in Savannah

 



 

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM, <msm at portata.com> wrote:

My understanding (could be way off) is that you want dense air (cooled
and/or compresses) but that you want the fuel to evaporate quickly since
liquid fuel will not burn, hence warm fuel is better.



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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:32 PM
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Subject: [DeTomaso] fuel cell as oil cooler ???


In adding another car to the Registry, I (easily) noticed that the stock
fuel tank had been removed, and a "standard shaped" tank or cell
installed
over the ZF.

OK so this adds weight in the worst location, but...

In the photo I also noticed was might be an oil line going into and out
of
the tank.  (In addition to the expected fuel connections.)

Hmmm.  The cooler fuel might cool the oil in the typical heat transfer
like
oil-to-water coolers.  But...

Fuel works best when the air/fuel charge is cool (denser air).

Long ago in my 510 days, when I experimented with EVERYthing about a
car, I
had a fuel cooler can (filled with frozen blue ice).

Theoretically this fuel cooler worked, but the benefit was out-weighed
by
the effort.  So I must be missing something.

I would think there are too many issues with an oil-to-fuel cooler...

But interesting none-the-less!

Chuck



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