[DeTomaso] Cam Install and Timing DVD (Pantera Mechanicals General Knowledge for Engine Building)
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Sun Aug 10 01:04:56 EDT 2008
I wouldn't think it shouldn't take eight hours to change a cam on a SOHC
engine, but after reading Chris' post, I can see there is a bit of work
to it. Even so, if well organized it shouldn't take that long. And
yeah, there is that good point about no lifter or pushrods. Having a
simple cam follower setup can be quite nice.
Thanks for the post Chris,
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
1973 Pantera L 5533
[ASASCAT]
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Chris Difani wrote:
> Jack:
>
> Ha! Ha! very funny!
>
> And here's my well thought out response to your
> antediluvian antique engine bias... Us young whippersnappers know a thing or
> two too! (which won't stop me from immediately writing you whenever I hit my
> next "Oh NO, what do I do now?" impasse...
>
> I'm not sure which article that was... or how thumblefingered their
> mechanics were.... But from my personal experience, the hardest task is
> removing the valve covers (have to find a big enough container for 26 long
> but thin bolts, and their steel spacers that keep the valve cover gasket
> from being distorted by too much tightening. Finding those little bitty
> spacers on the floor is a real pain)....
>
> Everything else is a simple "spin the bolt out" process. There's only one
> drive belt to deal with, and it's tensioner is easy to deal with. Then you
> pull the harmonic balancer (which you have to do too), and then the timing
> cover comes off. The water pump stays in place. The alternator stays in
> place. The AC compressor stays in place. The heater hoses stay in place. The
> radiator hoses stay in place. There is no distributor to mess with. No
> distributor gears to worry about. No oil pump drive shafts to worry about.
> No distributor shaft drive pins to worry about. No plug wires to mess with.
> No huge coil to mess with.
>
> Then once the timing cover is off (which takes a total of 12 bolts), and the
> valve covers (which is a total of 26 bolts), everything's out in plain view.
> All ready to be tweaked, degreed, and adjusted. To replace the cams, there's
> 5 retainers that have to come off, along with it's drive sprocket, chain,
> and chain tensioner. Do that twice, once on each side.
>
> In any case however, the hassle of dealing with two camshafts is nothing
> compared to the huge "cool" quotient in having overhead cams. That's just
> COOL!
>
> Now I will admit that having to pay for TWO camshafts does come as a
> financial shock... and that's only for my SOHC engine. The DOHC guys have
> four of them to deal with... and that's definitely not cheap. But on the
> other hand, I have NO pushrods to mess with. AND I have NO lifters to worry
> about. I do have a "follower", which is essentially a roller bearing that
> rides between the valve stem end, and the cam lobe. But they've been tested
> to 9,000 RPM, and with a tested service life of 250,000 miles (with no
> significant wear at that point), so I don't think I need to worry about them
> either.
>
> The other thing, my engine is designed to operate with all the wussy oils
> that have zero metal-to-metal "cushion" additives now. So mushroomed lifters
> won't be on my plate.... In fact lifers won't be on my plate...
>
> All of this just shows that sometimes progress does occur.... in a positive
> way... Of course that's my opinion.... and we all know about opinions... But
> I do like to look thru my "don't have to worry about it" list of engine
> parts, and relax with my favorite adult beverage... Especially when I've
> just read about one of you that's been pulling his hair out over a problem
> that I'll never, ever have.... Can't have in fact....
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Difani
> '73 L #5829 "LITNNG"
> The Electric Pantera
> Sacramento, CA
> Email: cdifani at pacbell.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JDeRyke at aol.com
> To: cdifani at pacbell.net ; detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cam Install and Timing DVD (Pantera Mechanicals General Knowledge for Engine Building)
>
>
> In a message dated 8/8/08 8:05:27 PM, cdifani at pacbell.net writes:
>
>
> I'm installing a SOHC engine in my '73L Pantera. Since it's got two cams, I decided that I just had to degree them.
>
>
> A recent magazine article on a performance build-up at a shop with a dyno changed cams in one of these engines- in 8 hours! Cam changes or tuning is apparently not very simple or cheap. I'll stay with the Cleveland, thanks- J Deryke
>
>
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