[DeTomaso] Mud flaps- Was Haven't seen the fake 4 cam covers for a while
Tomas Gunnarsson
guson at home.se
Fri Apr 25 19:05:05 EDT 2008
That's just my opinion. I would be the first to appreciate if the gills were functional as I've gone through considerable effort to duct cool air from underneath the car to my air cleaner. The quarter window/gill area has a very high impact on how the car stands out when viewed straight from the side. If someone decides to remove that design element for his own pleasure, fine, but don't expect everyone to appreciate it. I could make a list of one-of-a kind modifications that I wouldn't want to see done to any car from a design perspective but in this case someone mentioned one specific mod and I responded. I don't see this much different than arguing for a 650 or 850 cfm carb on a 351C.
Tomas
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From: michael at michaelshortt.com
To: Tomas Gunnarsson
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mud flaps- Was Haven't seen the fake 4 cam coversfora while
OK,
Talk about slamming your own family, WTF are you people thinking?
I think we should fix the damn Lambo doors so they open correctly, rehinge the Muira Engine cover, put a grill in every Cobra so that road debris can't destroy the radiator, raise the roof on all GT40's ( too dam short for 6'0 driver ), shorten all the XKE hoods ( bonnets ) there is no reason they have to be that long, ditch the side vents on MB 300SL's and smooth out their shape, and we should all drive a Rover 3500 with a Buick V-8 and learn to like it, all of them white.
Like the speed lines on a Raymond Lowey designed Locomotive, the gills aren't there for anything other than decor, just like those dam stupid horses that can't seem to keep four feet on the ground or those snotty nosed bulls that charge ( right before the matador kills them )
they are indicative of speed, and anything else would ruin the car or probably if removed ruin the structural design of the car.
If you don't like one the most awesome angles of the car ( Tom T got it right ) the crouching rear, ready to pounce on unsuspecting prey, then sell your car and get a 1980 Jetta.
Michael in Savannah
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> wrote:
I saw the gills-smoothed-out car article too and thought it looked terrible.
Tomas
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From: "Art Stephens" <artstephens at charter.net>
To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mud flaps- Was Haven't seen the fake 4 cam coversfora while
> Sounds like a good idea Ken. I was thinking about filling the area to make it flat. I remember seeing a car done this way in an issue of PI?
>
> Art
>
>
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> To: Art Stephens ; detomaso at realbig.com
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> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mud flaps- Was Haven't seen the fake 4 cam coversfor a while
>
>
> Art,
>
> I want to do the same thing with the fake vents. I think what we need is a grill with the same fins as the aluminum casting, but open on the back, a clear scoop over the fins to form an air scoop, and a backing that flairs into maybe a 3 inch round passage into the engine compartment. I think we can avoid altering the look which in my opinion can not be improved on, and get much needed ambient air to the engine.
>
> Ken
>
> Art Stephens <artstephens at charter.net> wrote:
> I hate fake stuff myself, well, except for breasts, but I digress.
> I'll take this a step further yet. The cars came with a fake dress up item,
> that is the triangular part next to the quarter windows, made to look like
> vents. It's not that they aren't attractive, it's just that they are not
> functional. Some day I may modify the car to eliminate those damn things.
> I love the fact that it is acceptable to modify the Pantera and we all get
> to make them just the way we want. It's almost like having a custom made
> automobile!
>
> Art
>
>
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>
> > You know group, I've given this some thought and I have to share my
> > thoughts
> > at the risk of being ridiculed.
> >
> > I think one of the really cool things about Pantera's and for the most
> > part
> > the people who buy them is that each is an individual and we as a group
> > for
> > the most part change up the cars from stock and it's accepted whereas 1
> > 308,
> > 328, 348, 360 etc. is just that, maybe a different color and maybe wheels.
> > They all all the same cookie cutter BS and in a parking lot full of them,
> > you'd have trouble finding yours unless you left your gold chains and
> > Gucci
> > loafers on the seat and then only if your Mommy wrote your name in your
> > shoes.
> >
> > I have the Hall 17" wheels with the lug covers which had two options,
> > either
> > a great bog FAKE axle nut ( like a F1 or Indy Car ) or a spinner nut, I
> > think they look great, not too many out there say unlike FAKE 17" Campy
> > clones. I also have the rear sway bar nameplate and the suspension arm
> > covers and I like them, just like almost every Harley Davidson owner adds
> > something like chrome acorn nuts, front dress up parts, a sissy bar, light
> > bar, etc. Some have deadly looking spikes, skulls, gay looking ostrich
> > seat
> > covers, etc. I would no more point out to them that their bikes weren't
> > cool than I would to any of you.
> >
> > I've probably seen around 40-50 Panteras in person by now, no two are
> > alike
> > and thank God for that. Some were plainly not to my liking, I thought
> > some
> > were downright tacky, So be nice, we depend on each other for support, not
> > to tear each others cars apart, clearly some of you have GT3/4/5 flares (
> > missed you at Lemans this year ), Delta wings ( American Heavy, cleared
> > for
> > runway 36 ) , Revson spoliers, Recaro seats, Hemi's, Racing stripes ( yet
> > you don't race ) and polished ZF cases ( how much faster does that make
> > the
> > car go or stop quicker ) messed up air cleaner set ups, etc.
> >
> > but you know I would NEVER say anything to that person because his car is
> > to
> > him what mine is to me, FREAKING MINE!
> >
> >
> > Michael in Savannah
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM, wrote:
> >
> >> I have one for you, I remember a while back there were Pantera Mud flaps
> >> on
> >> E-bay. Check the mail list archive, it was in 2002.
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 4/23/2008 5:44:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> MikeLDrew at aol.com writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 4/22/08 21 13 57, matt at nwpantera.com writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'd like to see that Top 10 dumbest accessory list Mike!
> >> > Update us on the latest worst trends and fads please won't you?
> >> > And while you're at it throw in the 10 best as well...
> >> > I can't think of another soul on this planet more qualified than you
> >> that
> >> > has viewed more Detomaso's and would appreciate a wellthought out
> >> > list.
> >> Not
> >> > that your opinioin matters to me or anyone else,but it's appreciated
> >> alot!
> >> >
> >>
> >> HAHAHA!!!
> >>
> >> Okay, let me think about it. Sounds like good fodder for an article.
> >> :>)
> >>
> >> Having said that, off the top of my head I can't think of too many truly
> >> dumb
> >> Pantera accessories, other than the fake 16 Valve valve covers, and
> >> electric
> >> fans on the engine screen? (GRIN!)
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
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