[DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion

[Jim Gray]

Have you heard what the replacement will be?

Jim Gray

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On
Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:41 AM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion

According to Wikipedia it'll be banned from 2011 in new cars. This likely
gives us a little more time before refilling old systems is impossible.

Tomas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gray" <jimgray at cableone.net>
To: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion


>I have read that the EU was banning R134a in either 2008 or 2009 though I
> never heard what the replacement would be.  Does anyone know anything
about
> this?
>
> Jim Gray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On
> Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:08 AM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion
>
> I agree with Charlie. In Sweden the R12 substitutes are not commonly heard
> of.. It's R134 or nothing.
>
> Tomas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: "'Will Demelo'" <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion
>
>
>> In Spain, they use R-134. I had mine converted last year here.
>>
>> I know that wasn't the question but it may give an indication...
>>
>> Charles McCall
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>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
>> nombre de Will Demelo
>> Enviado el: lunes, 21 de abril de 2008 12:09
>> Para: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Asunto: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion
>>
>> What is the common refigerant used in the UK? The car is being shipped
>> abroad.
>> Will
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> To: wdemelo at cogeco.ca ; detomaso at realbig.com
>> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A/C conversion
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/19/08 10 01 0, wdemelo at cogeco.ca writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>  I have a bone stock A/C system that I need get running. Obviously, I
need
>> to replace the compressor with a 134a type.
>>
>>
>>>>>Actually, no.  The simplest thing to do is just replace the stock
>> compressor with a rotary unit and associated bracket, but stick with the
> R12
>> formula.  Although R12 is no longer in production, A/C shops are amply
>> stocked with acceptable substitutes, and it is probably cheaper and
easier
>> than switching the whole system over to R134.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Anything else I need to order? Are the vendors priced similarly? Will my
>> stock condenser and dryer work?
>>
>>
>> If you stick with R12, yes.  I would bring your car as-is to an A/C shop
> and
>> have them evaluate the condition of your condenser.  Exhaust fumes attack
>> them, and many of them have fins that have literally turned to powder,
and
>> thus they are ineffective.  Assuming yours is in decent shape, you should
>> replace all the hoses, and the dryer, along with the compresser.  But
your
>> evaporator under the dash, and condenser should be fine.  Oh, you might
> want
>> to change the expansion valve too; talk to the A/C shop about this.
>>
>> You can do all the nuts-and-bolts work yourself, then just have the shop
>> perform a leak check prior to charging.
>>
>> I think most of the vendors are similarly priced on the parts....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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