[DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion

[Jim Gray]

I have read that the EU was banning R134a in either 2008 or 2009 though I
never heard what the replacement would be.  Does anyone know anything about
this?

Jim Gray

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On
Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:08 AM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion

I agree with Charlie. In Sweden the R12 substitutes are not commonly heard
of.. It's R134 or nothing.

Tomas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
To: "'Will Demelo'" <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion


> In Spain, they use R-134. I had mine converted last year here.
>
> I know that wasn't the question but it may give an indication...
>
> Charles McCall
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> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
> nombre de Will Demelo
> Enviado el: lunes, 21 de abril de 2008 12:09
> Para: detomaso at realbig.com
> Asunto: [DeTomaso] Fw: A/C conversion
>
> What is the common refigerant used in the UK? The car is being shipped
> abroad.
> Will
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> To: wdemelo at cogeco.ca ; detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A/C conversion
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/19/08 10 01 0, wdemelo at cogeco.ca writes:
>
>
>
>  I have a bone stock A/C system that I need get running. Obviously, I need
> to replace the compressor with a 134a type.
>
>
>>>>Actually, no.  The simplest thing to do is just replace the stock
> compressor with a rotary unit and associated bracket, but stick with the
R12
> formula.  Although R12 is no longer in production, A/C shops are amply
> stocked with acceptable substitutes, and it is probably cheaper and easier
> than switching the whole system over to R134.
>
>
>
>  Anything else I need to order? Are the vendors priced similarly? Will my
> stock condenser and dryer work?
>
>
> If you stick with R12, yes.  I would bring your car as-is to an A/C shop
and
> have them evaluate the condition of your condenser.  Exhaust fumes attack
> them, and many of them have fins that have literally turned to powder, and
> thus they are ineffective.  Assuming yours is in decent shape, you should
> replace all the hoses, and the dryer, along with the compresser.  But your
> evaporator under the dash, and condenser should be fine.  Oh, you might
want
> to change the expansion valve too; talk to the A/C shop about this.
>
> You can do all the nuts-and-bolts work yourself, then just have the shop
> perform a leak check prior to charging.
>
> I think most of the vendors are similarly priced on the parts....
>
> Mike
>
>
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