[DeTomaso] How About Vegas Covention in March?

adin at frontier.net adin at frontier.net
Sun Apr 6 07:10:11 EDT 2008


Why is snow like sex?


You never know how many inches you will get nor hoe long it will last.

3"????

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all the best,




Quoting Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>:

> Yup, well anyway...  It's April now and it snowed today, put about three
> inches on the ground earlier this morning.  I think I'd keep the late
> April time frame. :)
>
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> RallyFanatic at aol.com wrote:
>> Dennis;
>>
>> I know what you mean about being overly sensitive about the event.   But I
>> can  assure you that was not my intent, to defend the timing of the  
>>   event, but
>> solely to give some historical perspective to why the event is held  when it
>> is.
>>
>> I personally, don't care when the event is held, or where (within reason -
>> no camping) as I will be there.
>>
>>  I agree with you that if someone wants to start an event, they can  hold it
>> where and when they want.  If it good, "they will come."  I  also agree with
>> you that many events are (1) planned, (2) held, and then  disappear  
>>  as either
>> people don't come, or the organizers get burned out once  they see what is
>> involved in putting on any kind of a large event, from scratch,  as  
>>  opposed to
>> attending a previously planned event, e.g., any open road racing,  the any
>> concourse put on by another organization, etc.  In these cases, the  
>>   planning, which
>> can be substantial, is not the same as actually organizing  the event.  And,
>> when you have to plan for everything to do with the  event, it is   
>> not an easy
>> task.
>>
>> My hat is off to you for all you do, and have done, for getting Panteras to
>> participate in open road racing events.  I know it is a lot of work, and
>> without people like out, there would be a lot less enjoyment in our  
>>  lives; both
>> for those who participate, as well as those of us who participate   
>> vicariously
>> thru your reports.
>>
>> Keep up the good work!
>>
>> Kent
>>
>> PS; It is Command Sergeant Major, not Sergeant Major.   :>)
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/3/2008 10:56:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> teampantera at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>> Sgt. Major (aka Kent Snyder)
>>
>> You mean Bob can't accomadate the 3% of us who want the event moved?  ;-]>
>>
>> You, Bob and JT and the rest of the Fun Rally gang do a great service to
>> all. But you guys are waaaaaaaaaay to oversenstive about this   
>> subject. the  fact
>>  is everyone have always had the opportunity to start a new  venue if anyone
>> wanted to step up and organize it and run it.
>>
>> Every year the 'volunteers' to start a new event on a new date and  location
>> are numerous...what is not numerous are the few like you  and Bob and others
>> who put the event on year after year.
>>
>> Thanks for the decades of support.
>>
>> Dawg
>>
>>
>>
>> RallyFanatic at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> I  really had no plans to get involved in this discussion but I thought a
>> little history might give some perspective as to why the POCA Las Vegas  Fun
>> Rally is held over (either) the last weekend in April or the first  weekend
>> in May.
>>
>> When Sandi and I along with Eric and Linda Cooper  started the Fun Rally in
>> 1982, POCA was, in fact, a Los Angeles based  club with the majority of its
>> plus
>> or minus 300 members in the Southern  California area.
>>
>> The BIG events that we held were the Newporter  Concourse D' Elegance in
>> June, and the annual trip to Monterey for the  Pebble Beach   
>> Concourse and the
>> vintage auto races at Laguna Seca. Some  then stayed over Monday to run with
>> the
>> Ferrari Club who rented Laguna  Seca for their club, and invited POCA to run
>> with them. As an aside, we  stopped being invited when we kept beating the
>> Ferrari's in the  races.
>>
>> Anyway, those were the two big events that POCA did for the  year. The
>> calendar was fleshed out by 10 other events, each Board Member  was
>> responsible for
>> one event a month; twelve board members, twelve  events.
>>
>> The first fun Rally was held in March 1982, and there was  rain on the way
>> back, and the folks who drove from Colorado and points  east, complained
>> about
>> the ice and snow conditions they faced on the way  to and from the event.
>> Thus, we moved the event to the last weekend in  April timeframe. This way,
>> we
>> didn't compete with the Concourse and the  folks driving (usually)   
>> had better
>> conditions.
>>
>> As time passed,  more clubs/chapters started major events, Pocono, the Reno
>> Tahoe Fun  Rally, and states began open road events, Silver State, etc.,
>> etc.,
>> etc.
>>
>> Now the calendar is filled with major events, the cost of  everything has
>> gone way up, and there is greater competition for your  dollar,   
>> which doesn't
>> go
>> far, and discretionary income shrinks as  necessities take up more and more
>> of
>> the available income.
>>
>> To  move the Fun Rally from its usual timeframe would mean that   
>> whoever plans
>>
>> the event would have to make sure there are no (or very few) conflicts  with
>> other events, not over a major holiday, i.e., Mothers day, not    
>> conflict with
>> school, if possible, and too many other factors to list  here. Well, just a
>> few, hotel availability, prices, other event (not  Pantera related)
>> conflicts,
>> etc.
>>
>> This is not to say that the  dates can't be moved, just that it is not as
>> easy as some would  think.
>>
>> My two cents worth.
>>
>> Kent Snyder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a  message dated 4/2/2008 8:51:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> cuvee at sbcglobal.net writes:
>>
>> Put something together and they may  come?
>>
>> michael frazier wrote:
>> Why does it  have to move 6 months? How about a smaller time shift to
>> accomodate  school, ORR events etc.
>> It's always too close to the Big Bend event that  some of the TEXAS people
>> like to attend...everything seems to
>> be  Kalifornia-centric. :) A smile for those surely  offended.
>> Michael
>> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa Y'all
>>
>>
>>> From:  jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> To: artstephens at charter.net;
>>>
>> detomaso at realbig.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:53:07 -0500>  Subject: Re:
>> [DeTomaso] How
>> About Vegas Covention in March?> > Hey  Art.> > I appreciate your   
>> thoughts on
>> this and encouragement to  get others to offer > their opinion.> > I have
>> been
>> eager to  consider alternative dates for other reasons.> > I would like to
>> see the event held at a Venue where we could show the cars > in a  Ballroom.
>> I
>> would love to see the Vendors display their latest >  restorations.
>> Additionally, I would enjoy establishing a Chapter Car  Show > Competition
>> where each
>> Chapter selects one car from their  membership to be > displayed in th
>> ballroom
>> and a team of judges  awards a winner. I don't know > what the criteia for
>> the
>> show would  be and perhaps a car may only be shown > once every "X"  
>>  number of
>>
>> years. My aim would be to get the Pantera Vendors > talents showcased  and
>> create some teamwork amoung the Chapter members to > work  together
>> in prepping a member's car. Those who have attended the Plaza  > know that
>> there is a genuine advantage to looking at cars in an  indoor > environment
>> with
>> your favorite beverage in hand. This is an  element of the > Fun Rally that
>> could help keep it fresh year to  year.> > That said, the challenge faced
>> with
>> the current dates for  the Fun Rally is > that it is Las Vegas peak season
>> and
>> it is  therefore difficult to afford the > Resort Hotels that could
>> accommodate the display of cars indoors. If we > were in Vegas during  the
>> off-season,
>> the opportunity would be different.> > As I have  written before in the POCA
>> Newsletter, the nicer hotels, that > could  accommodate cars indoors, would
>> force us to guarantee a certain number  > of room reservations to provide us
>> the
>> Ballrooms at an affordable  price. > During peak season those rooms would
>> almost be 2X the cost  of the Orleans. > If we tried host the Fun Rally at
>> that
>> time of  year, I fear many would stay > at less expensive venues
>> and commute to  the Host hotel. As a consequence, > we would not mee!
>> t out ro
>> om  target and break the POCA financial bank.> > I also believe   
>> that  younger
>> owners with families find it difficult to attend > Vegas in  late April/May.
>> The obstacle is that their children are in school >  and parents are
>> reluctant
>> to take them out. I am in this boat and >  appreciate the issue. If  
>>  the Rally
>> was scheduled during school break,  that > would help. This conundrum is
>> unfortunate as younger families  represent an > expanding demographic of
>> DeTomaso
>> owners.> > If  we held the Fun Rally in the summer, we could get superior
>> pricing and  > families would be available. Although as you point out, it
>> would be
>> to hot > for the track event and the California owners, I am told,   
>>  generally
>> do not > have working AC.> > Another issue to keep in  mind is the
>> availability of the organizers. The > Event is  orchestrated by very few
>> people. I know
>> at least one of them would >  gladly step back if someone else   
>> would step up.
>> It is fine and dandy to  say > lets have it in March; however, Bob
>> Reid is digging through tax  returns and > couldn't be a resource? Who will
>> step up? This is not  to say the Fun Rally > Committee is not open   
>> to change;
>> rather to  make you more sensitive to the > issues involved. The   
>> committe has
>>
>> made many changes over the last four > years to accommodate the will  of the
>> majority. We want to create a > compelling reason for people  to   
>> attend, make
>> new friends and have fun> > JT> Fun Rally  Co-Chair > > >
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