[DeTomaso] How About Vegas Covention in March?

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Sun Apr 6 01:14:53 EDT 2008


Yup, well anyway...  It's April now and it snowed today, put about three 
inches on the ground earlier this morning.  I think I'd keep the late 
April time frame. :)

Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1973 Pantera L 5533
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RallyFanatic at aol.com wrote:
> Dennis;
>  
> I know what you mean about being overly sensitive about the event.   But I 
> can  assure you that was not my intent, to defend the timing of the  event, but 
> solely to give some historical perspective to why the event is held  when it 
> is.  
>  
> I personally, don't care when the event is held, or where (within reason -  
> no camping) as I will be there.  
>  
>  I agree with you that if someone wants to start an event, they can  hold it 
> where and when they want.  If it good, "they will come."  I  also agree with 
> you that many events are (1) planned, (2) held, and then  disappear as either 
> people don't come, or the organizers get burned out once  they see what is 
> involved in putting on any kind of a large event, from scratch,  as opposed to 
> attending a previously planned event, e.g., any open road racing,  the any 
> concourse put on by another organization, etc.  In these cases, the  planning, which 
> can be substantial, is not the same as actually organizing  the event.  And, 
> when you have to plan for everything to do with the  event, it is not an easy 
> task.
>  
> My hat is off to you for all you do, and have done, for getting Panteras to  
> participate in open road racing events.  I know it is a lot of work, and  
> without people like out, there would be a lot less enjoyment in our lives; both  
> for those who participate, as well as those of us who participate vicariously  
> thru your reports.
>  
> Keep up the good work!
>  
> Kent
>  
> PS; It is Command Sergeant Major, not Sergeant Major.   :>) 
>  
>  
> In a message dated 4/3/2008 10:56:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> teampantera at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Sgt. Major (aka Kent Snyder)
>  
> You mean Bob can't accomadate the 3% of us who want the event moved?  ;-]>
>  
> You, Bob and JT and the rest of the Fun Rally gang do a great service to  
> all. But you guys are waaaaaaaaaay to oversenstive about this subject. the  fact
>  is everyone have always had the opportunity to start a new  venue if anyone 
> wanted to step up and organize it and run it.
>  
> Every year the 'volunteers' to start a new event on a new date and  location 
> are numerous...what is not numerous are the few like you  and Bob and others 
> who put the event on year after year.
>  
> Thanks for the decades of support.
>  
> Dawg
>  
>
>
> RallyFanatic at aol.com wrote:
>
> I  really had no plans to get involved in this discussion but I thought a  
> little history might give some perspective as to why the POCA Las Vegas  Fun 
> Rally is held over (either) the last weekend in April or the first  weekend 
> in May.
>
> When Sandi and I along with Eric and Linda Cooper  started the Fun Rally in 
> 1982, POCA was, in fact, a Los Angeles based  club with the majority of its 
> plus 
> or minus 300 members in the Southern  California area. 
>
> The BIG events that we held were the Newporter  Concourse D' Elegance in 
> June, and the annual trip to Monterey for the  Pebble Beach Concourse and the 
> vintage auto races at Laguna Seca. Some  then stayed over Monday to run with 
> the 
> Ferrari Club who rented Laguna  Seca for their club, and invited POCA to run 
> with them. As an aside, we  stopped being invited when we kept beating the 
> Ferrari's in the  races.
>
> Anyway, those were the two big events that POCA did for the  year. The 
> calendar was fleshed out by 10 other events, each Board Member  was 
> responsible for 
> one event a month; twelve board members, twelve  events.
>
> The first fun Rally was held in March 1982, and there was  rain on the way 
> back, and the folks who drove from Colorado and points  east, complained 
> about 
> the ice and snow conditions they faced on the way  to and from the event. 
> Thus, we moved the event to the last weekend in  April timeframe. This way, 
> we 
> didn't compete with the Concourse and the  folks driving (usually) had better 
> conditions.
>
> As time passed,  more clubs/chapters started major events, Pocono, the Reno 
> Tahoe Fun  Rally, and states began open road events, Silver State, etc., 
> etc.,  
> etc.
>
> Now the calendar is filled with major events, the cost of  everything has 
> gone way up, and there is greater competition for your  dollar, which doesn't 
> go 
> far, and discretionary income shrinks as  necessities take up more and more 
> of 
> the available income. 
>
> To  move the Fun Rally from its usual timeframe would mean that whoever plans 
>  
> the event would have to make sure there are no (or very few) conflicts  with 
> other events, not over a major holiday, i.e., Mothers day, not  conflict with 
> school, if possible, and too many other factors to list  here. Well, just a 
> few, hotel availability, prices, other event (not  Pantera related) 
> conflicts, 
> etc.
>
> This is not to say that the  dates can't be moved, just that it is not as 
> easy as some would  think.
>
> My two cents worth.
>
> Kent Snyder
>
>
>
>
> In a  message dated 4/2/2008 8:51:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> cuvee at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Put something together and they may  come?
>
> michael frazier wrote: 
> Why does it  have to move 6 months? How about a smaller time shift to 
> accomodate  school, ORR events etc.
> It's always too close to the Big Bend event that  some of the TEXAS people 
> like to attend...everything seems to
> be  Kalifornia-centric. :) A smile for those surely  offended.
> Michael
> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa Y'all
>
>   
>> From:  jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> To: artstephens at charter.net;  
>>     
> detomaso at realbig.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:53:07 -0500>  Subject: Re: 
> [DeTomaso] How 
> About Vegas Covention in March?> > Hey  Art.> > I appreciate your thoughts on 
> this and encouragement to  get others to offer > their opinion.> > I have 
> been 
> eager to  consider alternative dates for other reasons.> > I would like to  
> see the event held at a Venue where we could show the cars > in a  Ballroom. 
> I 
> would love to see the Vendors display their latest >  restorations. 
> Additionally, I would enjoy establishing a Chapter Car  Show > Competition 
> where each 
> Chapter selects one car from their  membership to be > displayed in th 
> ballroom 
> and a team of judges  awards a winner. I don't know > what the criteia for 
> the 
> show would  be and perhaps a car may only be shown > once every "X" number of 
>  
> years. My aim would be to get the Pantera Vendors > talents showcased  and 
> create some teamwork amoung the Chapter members to > work  together
> in prepping a member's car. Those who have attended the Plaza  > know that 
> there is a genuine advantage to looking at cars in an  indoor > environment 
> with 
> your favorite beverage in hand. This is an  element of the > Fun Rally that 
> could help keep it fresh year to  year.> > That said, the challenge faced 
> with 
> the current dates for  the Fun Rally is > that it is Las Vegas peak season 
> and 
> it is  therefore difficult to afford the > Resort Hotels that could  
> accommodate the display of cars indoors. If we > were in Vegas during  the 
> off-season, 
> the opportunity would be different.> > As I have  written before in the POCA 
> Newsletter, the nicer hotels, that > could  accommodate cars indoors, would 
> force us to guarantee a certain number  > of room reservations to provide us 
> the 
> Ballrooms at an affordable  price. > During peak season those rooms would 
> almost be 2X the cost  of the Orleans. > If we tried host the Fun Rally at 
> that 
> time of  year, I fear many would stay > at less expensive venues
> and commute to  the Host hotel. As a consequence, > we would not mee!
> t out ro
> om  target and break the POCA financial bank.> > I also believe that  younger 
> owners with families find it difficult to attend > Vegas in  late April/May. 
> The obstacle is that their children are in school >  and parents are 
> reluctant 
> to take them out. I am in this boat and >  appreciate the issue. If the Rally 
> was scheduled during school break,  that > would help. This conundrum is 
> unfortunate as younger families  represent an > expanding demographic of 
> DeTomaso 
> owners.> > If  we held the Fun Rally in the summer, we could get superior 
> pricing and  > families would be available. Although as you point out, it 
> would be  
> to hot > for the track event and the California owners, I am told,  generally 
> do not > have working AC.> > Another issue to keep in  mind is the 
> availability of the organizers. The > Event is  orchestrated by very few 
> people. I know 
> at least one of them would >  gladly step back if someone else would step up. 
> It is fine and dandy to  say > lets have it in March; however, Bob
> Reid is digging through tax  returns and > couldn't be a resource? Who will 
> step up? This is not  to say the Fun Rally > Committee is not open to change; 
> rather to  make you more sensitive to the > issues involved. The committe has 
>  
> made many changes over the last four > years to accommodate the will  of the 
> majority. We want to create a > compelling reason for people  to attend, make 
> new friends and have fun> > JT> Fun Rally  Co-Chair > > >  
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