[DeTomaso] Possible club/list/forum 351C dyno project?

asajay at asajay.com asajay at asajay.com
Wed Sep 19 16:10:22 EDT 2007


I'll offer use of www.351c.info for documenting and tracking.

Asa Jay

Quoting Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>:

> Dan,
>
>   Team Pantera Racing will be proud to donate.
>
>   Mad Dawg Antenucci
>   Team Pantera Racing
>
> Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   Would anyone be interested in donating (cash) or loaning (parts) to a
> club/list/forum 351C dyno project?
>
> I recently picked up a spare 351C engine that was promised to me when
> I purchased my white Pantera last year. Once back at the shop, I couldn't
> resist pulling it apart. It looks like the engine was recently rebuilt.
> It has closed chamber 4V heads, though they still have the infamous stock
> valves. The timing chain is tight and the oil pan and pump are clean.
> The piston tops and chambers have some carbon but it's thin enough I can
> read the L2379F 0.030 stampings in the TRW flat top forged pistons. I
> didn't notice any ridge at the tops of the bores. Has a Mellings M84AHV
> (high volume, standard pressure) oil pump. The connecting rod balancing
> pads are shiny, leading me to believe the engine was balanced when it was
> rebuilt. This engine could be freshened up and fitted with stainless
> one piece valves relatively inexpensively. However, I plan on building
> a second stroker with high port heads for that Pantera and really don't
> have much use for this engine. I was thinking about what to do with it,
> when the idea of a dyno mule occurred to me. I've recently dyno'd a
> couple of 408C strokers and posted the results here. Something similar
> could be done with a 351C.
>
> I have an extensive collection of 351C cylinder heads including iron
> open chamber 2V (real 351C as well as 351M/400), Aussie closed chamber
> 2V, open chamber 4V, closed chamber 4V and A3/C302/C302B aluminum high
> ports. I also have a selection of intake manifolds to match, several
> spare blocks, and many other bits. What I propose is that I supply the
> dyno mule engine and run the dyno tests over the winter until the money
> runs out. I've helped a number of you to put together engine combinations
> based upon the data I have on hand. Here's a chance to greatly expand
> that database and answer a lot of questions. We could pool our resources
> to fill in any gaps in parts that I might have and perhaps approach the
> vendors to see if they would be willing to donate or loan parts to the
> effort. I'll summarize all the tests and report here, as well as write
> up an article (or perhaps a series of articles) for the POCA and/or PI
> newsletters. I would also measure everything and enter it into a database
> for use in testing and calibrating dyno simulation software. This is just
> an idea at the moment but if there is sufficient interest in pursuing this
> further, I'll put together a list of the parts I have on hand and also
> discuss the project with my dyno guy. If you think of anything you'd like
> to see tested, let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan Jones
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