[DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette

[Tomas Gunnarsson]

Dave mentioned that A: he could easily get his hands on E85 which was 105 octane and B: local (to him) gas was E10 anyway. Somehow those statements merged I guess. :-)

Tomas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>; "Dave Doddek" <pantera at pobox.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette


> Thanks, now it makes sense.  How did the 10% alcohol get into the discussion?   
>   
>  Ken
> 
> Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> wrote:
>  Ken,
> 
> 85% alcohol gives you 105, 10% doesn't.
> 
> Tomas
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Green" 
> To: "Dave Doddek" 
> ; 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette
> 
> 
>> Dave,
>> 
>> Maybe I missed it, but why does 10% alcohol make such a big difference in octain? Actually, I think most aftermarket ECUs can save more than 1 program, so you could have a separate program for E85.
>> 
>> But this all sound to simple. If all you have to do is add 10% alcohol to get 105 octain, whay does anyone run race gas?
>> 
>> How does this compare to the people running a 50% alcohol mix in their water injection? If the ECU can determine when you're approaching detination and turn on the water/acohol injection to an appropriate level, does it do the same thing for octain as running E85? seems a lot easier. 
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> Dave Doddek 
> wrote:
>> Yes, you could run E85 in the pantera. You will have to make sure that the
>> fuel system is compatible with alcohol. There is a guy with a Grand
>> National here that runs E85 on a daily basis. He says it runs great and he
>> gets tons more HP. He did have to recalibrate the Computer.
>> 
>> And Jack, Sorry to say, that 10% ethanol does not change the operation of
>> the engine at all. We have had 10% ethanol in gas here in Illinois for
>> over 20 years. We also have gas without Ethanol. Running it in anything
>> from lawn mowers to cars makes no difference at all. We have been doing it
>> for 25 years.
>> 
>> Dave "Race gas at the pump, oh yea" D
>> 
>> At 04:18 PM 10/30/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>>>hi dave...are you saying you can use e85 for the pantera??...or just that
>>>you have one close by that you use with some other vehicle? - thanks!!
>> stephen
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>><>
>>>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:27:51 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jay Lenos E85 powered Vette
>>>
>>> At 105
>>> With
>>> 1000HP here I come.
>>>
>>>Dave "Race gas at the pump again" D
>>>
>>>At 01:29 PM 10/29/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>>>> I wonder what it would take to turn a 351C into an E85 screamer?
>>>>
>>>>Question is, where do I guy E85?
>>>>
>>>>Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>>:
>>>>
>>>>> Check out Jay Lenos new Vette:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>http://jalopnik.com/cars/sema/sema-2007-jay-lenos-600-hp-e85+powered-corvett
>>>e-c6rs-revealed-before-sema-debut-316031.php
>>>>>
>>>>> --michael cox
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