[DeTomaso] Bigger-Better-Heavy Duty Shocks for Silver StateWOOPS - No Slacker Content

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

Homes,
  When you made me get out of the pantera before we could even load it up on the Love-trailer taht hurt my feelings.
  md
   
  PS. You mean we're not supposted to take out the little  road reflector-things?
   
  "John Bentley (jab)" <jab at cisco.com> wrote:
  Daddy,

I don't want my car to hit those little reflectors between lanes like
your car does.... I like to be able to pass over a bowling ball. :)

JB



-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:38 AM
To: Jason Eaton
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Bigger-Better-Heavy Duty Shocks for Silver
StateWOOPS - No Slacker Content

Kid Eaton,

Don't be a hater or I am talking to your mom again. My fire
bottle weighs more then Nick!

Plus your Pantera is jacked up like a monster truck....no wonder you
didn't have any clearance issues Looks like JB's Pantera! ;-]> 

I got some feedback from our fastest unlimited Pantera drivers (Junior
& bobby) as well as a couple of the other Unlimited guys and all are
using poly or rubber stops on shock shafts and also suggested like
Eichbach and Aldan to go a bit more on spring weight... defiantely it
feels as if I am already too low at these speeds with these springs on
those dips at 150.

Jason Eaton wrote:
You can reduce the unsprung weight by cutting back on the beer and
donuts!

We didnt have any problems with compression, but were only going 150
though there. Also I'm pretty sure we are running higher rate spring
then yours. lets compare notes.

On 9/25/07, Mad Dog Antenucci wrote:
> Off Roaders & JORN IN NORWAY:
>
> Bilstein and Aldan were wrong.....rebuilding the shocks for the 
> Pantera with 25% more compression and rebound was not enough to stop 
> full compression at the dips (at WOT) at Silver State in the 
> Pantera....you couldn't have pulled a greased string out of my 
> backside on the hardest hit so its back to the drawing board.;-]>
>
> In the last ORR I had another great run....engine although it had too 
> much compression ;-]> ran great....the Pantera is handling better then

> it ever has.....but hitting full compression broke the ABS side skirts

> and bottom of the air dam in the dips. Shock mounts and chassis all 
> look good and the Pantera stayed straight and true on full compression

> so no handling problem. Te ABS was meant to provide some added 
> hi-speed stability which it did until it broke ;-]> but the ABS was 
> also meant tobe the 'sacraficial lamb' which it also did but bottom 
> line I still got full compression in dips above 145 mph
>
> So, as part of this winter's projects (MORE engine compression) ;-]> I
need some customized shocks with added compression to handle these dips
(aka WOOPS). I don't think there are any plans in 2008 to regrade the
course dips so the challenge is to build shocks around the course
conditions.
>
> No Col. I still can't afford those high tech $5 grand computerized
units but a couple people I spoke too suggested adding a stop on top of
springs to eliminate the 'full compression'.... the negative to that
suggestion is others have suggested it could also cause wheel hop 'at
speed' on full compression which could lead to loss of control and an
off road 4x4 excursion. ;-]> So goal is to STOP full compression.
>
> If YOU have a contact name of anyone you have personally dealed with
on customized shocks for off-road conditions send it to me. I gotta
figure those guys who are running offroad at 150 mph can help where
roundy-rounders can't.
>
> JORN, SEND ME contact infor on the VIKINGS that ran 200 MPH last week.
>
> MD
>
>
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
> www.teampanteraracing.com 
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