[DeTomaso] What a great car!

Mark McWhinney msm at portata.com
Wed Nov 14 13:27:24 EST 2007


A lot of us with 15" wheels have less than V rated rubber.  I have H (130
mph) that I have used on the track, but that is not the same at running 130
mph constantly.


-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of John Bentley (jab)
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:11 AM
To: Art Stephens; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What a great car!

Art,

I take that as nobody would put anything less than VR's on their Pantera
so every Pantera should be able to tech to 140 (since V is 149) with
regular factory-rated tires.  If I only had a dollar for everyone on
this list that has admitted they went over 100 MPH on some lonely
country road.......

Only 6 months left before NORC in Ely!

JB

 

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of Art Stephens
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:59 AM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What a great car!


 " Maybe there was no speed  rating in 1938, but in 1971, there was.
There is a sticker in my  passenger door jam on my 72 that shows the
original tires had a VR speed  rating."

     Well I'll be damned!  :-))

Art




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> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com 
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On Behalf Of Art Stephens
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:32 AM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What a great car!
>
> Mike,
>     I just read the rules and it does state that all tires must have a

> speed rating that is equal to or greater than original equipment.  
> It's too bad they have to be so restrictive that it keeps some people 
> from going out and having a good time at safe speeds.  I don't think 
> tires were even speed rated back in the 70's?  Perhaps they could be 
> persuaded to make an exception for vintage cars?
>
> Art
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  To: artstephens at charter.net ; teampantera at yahoo.com ; 
> asajay at asajay.com ; detomaso at realbig.com
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:07 PM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What a great car!
>
>
>
>  In a message dated 11/13/07 22 40 49, artstephens at charter.net writes:
>
>
>
>         It appears that you are not entirely correct.  :-))  The 
> Touring
>    division only requires "U" rated tires (124 mph).  The grand
touring
>    division only requires "V" rated tires,  which allow a tech speed 
> of 140
>    mph.  Beginning with the grand sport division,  "tires should not 
> be more
>    than two years old".  I don't see an age restriction for tires in 
> the
>    touring and grand touring divisions?
>
>
>
>  Panteras are reportedly subject to additional penalties which are NOT

> in the stated rules.  A Mustang in the touring group can run on 
> U-rated tires, but a Pantera in the SAME group must have V-rated or
better.
> This according to MD.  I refuse to invest the substantial money and 
> effort to travel a great distance to participate in an event whose 
> rules are so arbitrarily and capriciously enforced and/or ignored by 
> the organizers.
>
>  I have heard from other ORR vets who run in other ORR events around 
> the country, where the tire tech is more reasonable (i.e. restrictive 
> when it makes sense and has to be, i.e. high speed classes, and less 
> stringent in the lower speed classes).
>
>  But those are WAY too far away, unfortunately.
>
>  Mike (ironically, the Silver State people would probably be happy to 
> accept my Sciroccos as-is!)
>
>
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