[DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control

Sun Nov 11 02:05:19 EST 2007

If only I had known...

Oh well, live and learn!

Chris
3846

> From: jimgray at cableone.net
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; asajay at asajay.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:17 -0600
> 
> The Audiovox guy kept me screwed up for several days.  My cruise only worked
> after I talked to Dave Doddek and changed my switches to his settings.  I've
> had no problem since.
> 
> Just my experience.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On
> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:59 PM
> To: Asa Jay Laughton; 'Pantera List Serve'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control
> 
> 
> Not a stupid question at all, but I did road test it.
> 
> Interestingly, Jim from the forum sent me his dip switch positions, and they
> were slightly different than mine, although I went through mine one by one
> with the Audiovox tech guy on the phone, (after checking them myself and
> having my electrical-wizard friend, Doug, also check them), so I can't
> imagine they were the problem.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 3846
> 
> > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:16:52 -0800
> > From: asajay at asajay.com
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I've got a really really stupid question to ask.
> >
> > Were you testing the cruise control on the road, or parked in your garage?
> >
> > If in your garage, I don't ever think it will work.  When I installed a
> > cruise control to an old Mazda RX-2 I had years ago, it never worked for
> > me in the garage, because there were all kinds of inputs that had to be
> > met.  Drove me crazy for a while until I figured it out.  Took it out on
> > the road and it magically worked just fine.
> >
> > I imagine you have road tested it, so that's why my question is probably
> > dumb to be asking.
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >
> > & Shelley Marie
> > Spokane, WA
> >
> > 1973 Pantera L 5533
> > [ASASCAT]
> >
> > ******************************
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> > http://www.351c.info
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Christopher Kimball wrote:
> > > Well, I hooked up the vacuum storage cannister and the cruise control
> still didn't work.  It tried to, in the sense it pulled the throttle when I
> tapped the "resume/accel" button, but it wouldn't hold the speed constant at
> all.  Reversing the hoses on the cannister caused the thing to not work at
> all, indicating my first hunch on where to hook the hoses was correct.
> > >
> > > The wiring has been checked and re-checked and this is the second unit I
> tried (the first wouldn't even respond at all, with the same wiring hookup)
> so with much consternation, I took it out and sent it back to Summit for a
> cheerful refund.
> > >
> > > Of course, what they don't refund is the hours and hours spent
> trouble-shooting and trying to figure out what was wrong in the first place!
> (Thanks again, Doug, for all your help with the wiring check-up).
> > >
> > > I've heard there are fully electric cruise controls available which are
> better than the vacuum type, but since they seem to cost almost three times
> as much as this one did, I'll have to sell a few more things on ebay before
> I can delve into that.  (The truth is, my "Pantera account" is in a $1600
> deficit position right now, so it may be a long while until I get back to
> the cruise control issue.  Keeping track of all the Pantera expenses to the
> penny--that's what I get for marrying a CPA!)
> > >
> > > I'm considering making the drive to Vegas in April for the big shindig,
> but I'd for sure want cruise control in before I did a trip that long.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > #3846
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: doug1 at gtcinternet.com
> > >> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; wkooiman at earthlink.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> > >> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> > >> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:09:26 -0800
> > >>
> > >> Whoa Chris,
> > >>
> > >>    Is this a vacuum motor (meant to pull the throttle linkage when
> vacuum is
> > >> applied) or is this just a vacuum storage canister.  If it's the
> former,
> > >> then Will's comments don't apply.  If it's the latter, they do apply.
> I
> > >> thought you got this from Audiovox to replace the electric motor that
> pulls
> > >> the throttle linkage.
> > >>
> > >> Doug Braun
> > >> blue 73L #5505
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > >> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:34 AM
> > >> To: Will Kooiman; 'Pantera List Serve'
> > >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, I'll give it a try.  Worst case is I'll try it one way, and if
> that
> > >> doesn't work, just reverse it!
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >> #3846
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> From: wkooiman at earthlink.net
> > >>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > >>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> > >>> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:52:13 -0600
> > >>>
> > >>> That would be my guess.
> > >>>
> > >>> A vacuum canister is pretty simple.  One side goes to a vacuum source,
> > >>> usually the intake manifold.  The other goes to whatever you want to
> > >>>
> > >> provide
> > >>
> > >>> the vacuum source to.
> > >>>
> > >>> The only difference is the manifold side should have a one-way valve
> in
> > >>>
> > >> it.
> > >>
> > >>> It allows air to be sucked out, but not pushed back in.  The side that
> > >>>
> > >> goes
> > >>
> > >>> to your cruise control should be wide open.
> > >>>
> > >>> That way, the manifold creates a vacuum inside the canister, and it
> isn't
> > >>> allowed to drain.
> > >>>
> > >>> You could probably blow in the AMP, and air would come out the MAN.
> If
> > >>>
> > >> you
> > >>
> > >>> blow in the MAN, it should be plugged.
> > >>>
> > >>> That's the way I understand it anyway.
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> > >>>
> > >> On
> > >>
> > >>> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:26 AM
> > >>> To: Pantera List Serve
> > >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I just received the vacuum cannister for my Audiovox cruise control,
> but
> > >>>
> > >> it
> > >>
> > >>> came with no directions.  There are simply two nipples to which to
> hook
> > >>>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >>> vacuum hose, one marked "MAN" the other marked "AMP"
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm assuming the "MAN" means that's the one to which I attach the hose
> > >>> coming from the manifold.  Maybe "AMP" means amplified, as in more
> vacuum
> > >>> which goes to the cruise control unit.
> > >>>
> > >>> Can anyone confirm this?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks a million,
> > >>>
> > >>> Chris
> > >>> #3846
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