[DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control

[Jim Gray]

The Audiovox guy kept me screwed up for several days.  My cruise only worked
after I talked to Dave Doddek and changed my switches to his settings.  I've
had no problem since.

Just my experience.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On
Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:59 PM
To: Asa Jay Laughton; 'Pantera List Serve'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control


Not a stupid question at all, but I did road test it.

Interestingly, Jim from the forum sent me his dip switch positions, and they
were slightly different than mine, although I went through mine one by one
with the Audiovox tech guy on the phone, (after checking them myself and
having my electrical-wizard friend, Doug, also check them), so I can't
imagine they were the problem.

Thanks,

Chris
3846

> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:16:52 -0800
> From: asajay at asajay.com
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control
>
> Chris,
>
> I've got a really really stupid question to ask.
>
> Were you testing the cruise control on the road, or parked in your garage?
>
> If in your garage, I don't ever think it will work.  When I installed a
> cruise control to an old Mazda RX-2 I had years ago, it never worked for
> me in the garage, because there were all kinds of inputs that had to be
> met.  Drove me crazy for a while until I figured it out.  Took it out on
> the road and it magically worked just fine.
>
> I imagine you have road tested it, so that's why my question is probably
> dumb to be asking.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
>
> 1973 Pantera L 5533
> [ASASCAT]
>
> ******************************
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>
>
>
> Christopher Kimball wrote:
> > Well, I hooked up the vacuum storage cannister and the cruise control
still didn't work.  It tried to, in the sense it pulled the throttle when I
tapped the "resume/accel" button, but it wouldn't hold the speed constant at
all.  Reversing the hoses on the cannister caused the thing to not work at
all, indicating my first hunch on where to hook the hoses was correct.
> >
> > The wiring has been checked and re-checked and this is the second unit I
tried (the first wouldn't even respond at all, with the same wiring hookup)
so with much consternation, I took it out and sent it back to Summit for a
cheerful refund.
> >
> > Of course, what they don't refund is the hours and hours spent
trouble-shooting and trying to figure out what was wrong in the first place!
(Thanks again, Doug, for all your help with the wiring check-up).
> >
> > I've heard there are fully electric cruise controls available which are
better than the vacuum type, but since they seem to cost almost three times
as much as this one did, I'll have to sell a few more things on ebay before
I can delve into that.  (The truth is, my "Pantera account" is in a $1600
deficit position right now, so it may be a long while until I get back to
the cruise control issue.  Keeping track of all the Pantera expenses to the
penny--that's what I get for marrying a CPA!)
> >
> > I'm considering making the drive to Vegas in April for the big shindig,
but I'd for sure want cruise control in before I did a trip that long.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris
> > #3846
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: doug1 at gtcinternet.com
> >> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; wkooiman at earthlink.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> >> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:09:26 -0800
> >>
> >> Whoa Chris,
> >>
> >>    Is this a vacuum motor (meant to pull the throttle linkage when
vacuum is
> >> applied) or is this just a vacuum storage canister.  If it's the
former,
> >> then Will's comments don't apply.  If it's the latter, they do apply.
I
> >> thought you got this from Audiovox to replace the electric motor that
pulls
> >> the throttle linkage.
> >>
> >> Doug Braun
> >> blue 73L #5505
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> >> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:34 AM
> >> To: Will Kooiman; 'Pantera List Serve'
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks, I'll give it a try.  Worst case is I'll try it one way, and if
that
> >> doesn't work, just reverse it!
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Chris
> >> #3846
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: wkooiman at earthlink.net
> >>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> >>> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:52:13 -0600
> >>>
> >>> That would be my guess.
> >>>
> >>> A vacuum canister is pretty simple.  One side goes to a vacuum source,
> >>> usually the intake manifold.  The other goes to whatever you want to
> >>>
> >> provide
> >>
> >>> the vacuum source to.
> >>>
> >>> The only difference is the manifold side should have a one-way valve
in
> >>>
> >> it.
> >>
> >>> It allows air to be sucked out, but not pushed back in.  The side that
> >>>
> >> goes
> >>
> >>> to your cruise control should be wide open.
> >>>
> >>> That way, the manifold creates a vacuum inside the canister, and it
isn't
> >>> allowed to drain.
> >>>
> >>> You could probably blow in the AMP, and air would come out the MAN.
If
> >>>
> >> you
> >>
> >>> blow in the MAN, it should be plugged.
> >>>
> >>> That's the way I understand it anyway.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> >>>
> >> On
> >>
> >>> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:26 AM
> >>> To: Pantera List Serve
> >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I just received the vacuum cannister for my Audiovox cruise control,
but
> >>>
> >> it
> >>
> >>> came with no directions.  There are simply two nipples to which to
hook
> >>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> vacuum hose, one marked "MAN" the other marked "AMP"
> >>>
> >>> I'm assuming the "MAN" means that's the one to which I attach the hose
> >>> coming from the manifold.  Maybe "AMP" means amplified, as in more
vacuum
> >>> which goes to the cruise control unit.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone confirm this?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a million,
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>> #3846
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