[DeTomaso] FW: Pantera Starter

Tue Nov 6 16:43:37 EST 2007

Thanks, Doug, but currently my starter is OK.  I got in a discussion with my friend, Gary, at a business meeting (he has a Pantera, too) and we talked about starters.  That's why he sent me the info he did.

What I did when my starter went out was buy a stock starter for about $35.00 or so, then I covered it with that silver, heat-protective stuff with the black goo on one side to protect the starter from the heat.  I've been told the heat is why the starter lugs.

So far, the car starts right up with no hesitation since I covered it with the magic heat protector.  Of course, it could just be coincidence, too!  When the current starter finally fails, I'll probably go with one of the smaller, high-powered units.

By the way, I can't remember if I told you that I sent back the cruise control and got a replacement.  It doesn't work either, although at least it tries to work.  I'm going to try the vacuum canister attachment (I'm still waiting for it to arrive in the mail), and if that doesn't work, I'll have to return it and go with an electrical (rather than vacuum) one.  They're, of course, more expensive.

I appreciate your help in checking all the wiring, though.  You helped reassure me I really did hook up all the wires correctly.

In the last couple of days I've driven the car about 200 miles.  Even though it still smokes on deceleration, that car is a blast to drive.  I've resisted the urge so far, but one of these days I fear I'm going to floor it on I-5 just to see how fast it actually will go!

Sorry I won't be at the meeting Thursday but I have to pick my wife and sons from the airport.  They were doing missionary work at an orphanage there.

Sincerely,

Chris

> From: doug at silicondesigns.com> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Pantera Starter> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:20:18 -0800> > Chris,> > I bought a mini starter for about this same buy-it-now price from these> guys and it works great. Let me know and I'll check on the exact part> number I bought for my Pantera.> > Doug> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Ford-Mini-pmgr-Starter-302-351-Manual-Tra> ns-3223_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33576QQihZ003QQitemZ130168859748QQrdZ1QQs> spagenameZWDVW> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:33 PM> To: Pantera List Serve> Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Pantera Starter> > > > Here's some info a fellow Pantera owner sent me. I thought some of you> might find it intersting.> > Chris> #3846> > > Subject: Re: Pantera Starter> > To: george.graupner at prudential.com> > CC: chrisvkimball at msn.com> > From: chris.kimball at prudential.com> > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:15:44 -0800> >> > Thanks for the info--I'll keep it for my own future use and pass it along> > to the club members.> >> > Sincerely,> >> > Chris> >> >> >> >> >> > George> > Graupner/IIG/Prud> > ential To> > RANR Chris> > Phone Number: 509 Kimball/IIG/Prudential at Prudential> > 926 5734 cc> > Fax Number: 509> > 926 5734 Subject> > Pantera Starter> > Fri 11/02/2007> > 10:48 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Chris; Was good talking to you at the meeting. Sounds like you are> > having fun with the Pantera and the guys in that club over there. As I> > told you, I got tired of the starter in my car getting weak when hot, and> > it was so damn embarrassing to have it slowly grind and start....or not> > start in a car show or always at a time when a lot of people were standing> > around it. The stock Ford starter in these things is a model> 3132.....at> > least mine was! My son worked for a company here in Spokane who buys> > things from an outfit called Auto Electric Products Co. 6316 E.> > Springfield Ave Spokane, Wa 99212. Phone 509 536 8116 Fax is 509> > 5368118. I bought one of the reduction drive starters from them and I> got> > it for 105.00, and that was with a discount for B and B Trucking. I> > don't know what the regular price is, but maybe if you talk to them they> > would give you the same discount, and even have it shipped direct to you.> > These starters end all the troubles and are a lot easier to put in, since> > they are light and small. This starter has a Solenoid built onto it,> > where the stock ford 3132 does not. Therefore, you need to get the kit> > P84-114 which is really nothing but directions and wiring to bypass the> > solenoid thats mounted up on the firewall behind the passenger seat, on> the> > engine side. Its 7.02 with the discount. The starter number that I got> > from these guys is 3223N on the invoice. Its a lot better than the 350> or> > higher cost starters that the aftermarket sells, and works just as well.> > It spins it over real well, hot or cold. I am tickled. Give the guy a> > call and tell him that on 10 4 2007 I bought mine under invoice 22649 fo> r> > a total of 121.65 and tell him you have the same situation and maybe they> > will give you that price. I don't know how you will get it, but they had> > to order mine, so they could probably have it shipped to you anyhow. If> > not, a few extra bucks for shipping would work, or I could pick it up and> > keep it until you can get here. I am coming to the compliance meeting and> > could bring it, but they probably wouldn't let me take it on the plane,> > because they probably would think I was going to throw it a the pilot or> > something.......HA! Feel free to share this with the club members.> > Almost everyone I know with a Pantera cusses the starter.> >> > Thanks, Gary 509 926 5734> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > NOTICE: Prudential may occasionally contact you through> > E-mail with information on products and services designed> > to meet your needs. If you do not wish to receive these> > messages from Prudential please send a message via> > E-mail to "do_not_email at prudential.com". IMPORTANT:> > Type "Remove" in the subject field. 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