[DeTomaso] Fwd: RE: Headlights Not Going Up and Down

[NED BYRNE, CB SECURITIES, LLC]

----- Original Message -----
From: Trevor Fougere  <trevor at fougere.com>
At: 11/01 22:02:34

Ned

Thanks for your note.  I posted the final resolution on the list.  But it
took SOBill's marvelous diagrams..along with discovering the reverse
polarity of the new motor and redoing connections at the relay to finally
get it properly sorted.

I had previously dissembled the actuator when I got back from
Vegas...thinking it was the old nylon gear issue.  Only to get it all apart
and discover...hmm...that red grease doesn't look 35 yrs old...using a
screwdriver to push some aside..and discover the brass gear had already been
done.

The dark side of buying a car with absolutely no maintenance history other
than the invoice for the last Cleveland rebuild.

I sent my gear back to Larry Stock at Pantera Parts Connection in Reno.  I
never tried to fit it (to keep it pristine for return).  Hence I can't
comment on the fitment of these gears.

I'm trying to remember if you're the guy with the blue Pantera giving me
moral support for my blown alternator at Vegas.  If so...thanks...nice to
talk to you again....  If not...thanks...it's always nice to talk to an
interested Pantera owner, anyway.

Cheers and good luck with yours

Trevor Fougere
#3797
http://www.fougere.com/pantera


-----Original Message-----
From: NED BYRNE, CB SECURITIES, LLC [mailto:nbyrne4 at bloomberg.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:35 AM
To: trevor at fougere.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights Not Going Up and Down

Trevor     I to am having this problem at the moment.  Have you looked
inside
the actuator to see if the original nylon gear is there and a mess?  I had
one of the stop switches fail, motor ran on untill it was stopped by just
pushing against the failed switch and eating up and freezing the nylon gear
inside the actuator.  I found the nylon gear to be a mess when I opened the
box.  You may want to take a look see inside the gear box.  To fix this I
purchased a new switch, used motor ( non were available but are now at
Pantera Performance ), and a brass gear.  I now have a the problem that the
brass gear will not do a full rotation without binding.  I think it may be
mis-manufactured and I'm trying to contact the seller to swap for another
one.  I did not purchase it
from Pantera Performance.  Hope this is of some help.

         Ned "Just Another Blue Pantera" #2981  '72  Pre-L   Byrne
----- Original Message -----
From: Trevor Fougere  <trevor at fougere.com>
At: 11/01 12:43:18

My headlights refuse to go up and down.  Here's what I know:

1 - I can hear the relay click when I turn the headlights on.  (The lights
turn on - even though they don't come up). So I'm getting power transfer to
the relay.

2 - My headlight motor was dead.  Even when powered straight from the
battery.  It has been replaced and rotates when directly connected to the
battery.

3 - The motor does not turn when the headlights are turned on.  I have
lowered the bracket holding the motor so that the gear is not engaged.
Still no turning.

4- The stop switches have both been replaced. I have tried all possible
combinations of the stop switches being depressed and undepressed.  Still no
turning.

5- When everything is detached from the rotating bar, I can manually lift
the headlights...and, of course, they freely drop back down again.

At this point I am thinking it's gotta be the relay.

Any thoughts?  Is it simply a case of replacing the relay?

Thank you in advance....

Trevor Fougere
#3797
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