[DeTomaso] Panteras for sale

Gray Gregory rgg at gregorycook.com
Tue May 15 15:11:42 EDT 2007


I agree with Fred. Prices for collectables (cars, art, memorabilia etc.)
tend to follow good performance in the financial markets and the economy
as a whole. The last few years have seen good economic growth and good
returns for most of the major stock market indexes world wide. If this
trend continues I would expect the market for collectables to stay
strong, if it reverses expect the collectables to follow suit. 

My .02,

Gray

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of F&D Terry
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:34 PM
To: dave at damardirect.com
Cc: michael at michaelshortt.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Panteras for sale

Actually the stock market has done very well for quite a few years with 
yearly gains in the 20% range for picking the right investment. This is 
what happens when the government doesn't tax all our money away, leaving

some for us to invest.

I attribute the reason car prices have risen so rapidly lately is 
because everyone is feeling flush as a result of stock market and 
housing gains. It certainly has put dollars in some pockets that a few 
years ago were nearly empty. Wait 'till Hillary gets through with her 
government funded health care. Car prices along with the stock market 
will have a serious set back.

Fred T.

Dave McManus wrote:

>IMHO, As long as the stock market is not attractive, the "investment"
cars
>will continue to do well. It is an alternative to the market.
>
>Indy
>Dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Shortt [mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com] 
>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:03 PM
>To: Mike Thomas
>Cc: Detomaso at Realbig. Com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Panteras for sale
>
>I DO like those prices, perhaps sooner than later they will be
commonplace
>for well cared for examples of our cars.  If we knock the value of
these
>cars ourselves, how do we expect those outside the circle to appreciate
>them?
>I have been to 5-7 auctions in the last year, still amazed that some
"Shelby
>Mustang", a glorified fastback with a few over the counter parts now
command
>225K as a starting point.
>Meanwhile, Mangusta. rolling works of art stall at 60K and Panteras
sell for
>30-50K.
>The entire car price structure is about as FU as started to get when
the
>1980's Japanese started buying Ferrari Daytonas for 500K and GTO's at
10-15
>million. I personally know of one that they offered to buy at 10
million 15
>years ago, the owner turned them down and later sold it for less when
the
>bottom finally fell out.  Just as it may do with Muscle cars at some
point,
>3.7 Million for a 1971 Hemi Cuda Conv. is a joke, the car drove like a
>truck, so what there were only 12 made in 1971, that should tell you
>something, NOBODY wanted one.
>Let's be our own best cheerleaders ans start being amazed at how cheap
one
>sells for, not indignant at how much is asked or paid fopr one.
>
>Michael in Savannah
>
>
>On 5/14/07, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
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>
>>I like those prices!
>>Yeah, right . . . .
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>>On
>>Behalf Of Garth Rodericks
>>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:53 AM
>>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>Subject: [DeTomaso] Panteras for sale
>>
>>There are 3 Panteras for sale on cars.com\
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>http://www.cars.com/go/search/search_results.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searc
hType
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>=21&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&amid=&cname=&mdnm=all&mknm=DeTomaso&rd=10000&zc=95
125&m
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>akeid=80&modelid=&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerP
age=0
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>&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&cr
iteri
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>a=K-%7CE-%7CM-_80_%7CN-N%7CR-10000%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-desce
nding
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>>%7CZ-95125&aff=national&aff=national
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>>(or http://tinyurl.com/23yfdq)
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>>Do we know these cars or the sellers?
>>
>>Cheers!
>>Garth (never selling) Rodericks
>>#4033
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>>Don't pick lemons.
>>See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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