[DeTomaso] Low Weber intake

[Mark Tumbarello]

can you run webers without cutting the deck lid?


>From: asajay at asajay.com
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Low Weber intake
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:53:57 -0800
>
>Will,
>
>Can you send a direct link for this posting?  That would make it
>easier to reply to.
>
>Thanks,
>Asa Jay
>
>Quoting Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>:
>
> > Again, from the PI board.... If you're interested, get on board 
>(literally).
> > Will
> >
> > There has been a thread about this manifold in the engine forum
> > below. In case you weren't following I'll provide the full story
> > here. There was a manifold manufactured years ago in Australia by a
> > man named John Cain, designed for the 351C with 2V heads, that was
> > an individual runner manifold for Weber 48 IDF carburetors.
> >
> > What you are used to seeing on Panteras are Weber 48IDA carburetors.
> >  The 48IDA is a racing carburetor with an idle circuit and a main
> > circuit (for wide open throttle). It is a very tall carburetor
> > designed with racing in mind, and has no provision for air
> > filtration. Achieving decent part throttle response requires
> > skillful blending of the idle metering circuit and the main metering
> >  circuit. In contrast, the 48IDF is a street carburetor, it has been
> >  original equipment on certain sports cars (such as Porsche) in the
> > days before fuel injection. It is a more compact, less tall
> > carburetor that has an intermediate metering circuit for proper and
> > reliable part throttle performance. It is also designed to be used
> > with air filter assemblies and Weber actually makes a line of air
> > filter assemblies for this carburetor.
> >
> > The manifold designed by John Cain has three appealing factors, (1)
> > it is low enough, that used in conjunction with the 48 IDF carbys
> > and the Weber air filters, the whole assembly will squeeze in below
> > the Pantera engine screen. (2) The 48 IDF carbys perform better on
> > the street than the 48 IDA. (3) You can have air filters to protect
> > your motor from inhaling dust.
> >
> > This manifold has been out of production for years. An Australian
> > gentleman named Mark, owning a company named Aussie Speed, has
> > acquired the rights to reproduce the John Cain line of intake
> > manifolds. I have approached him and he has began working on
> > preparing to reproduce the Cain 48 IDF Weber intake manifold for the
> >  351C. He is making a change to the design, by adding additional
> > flange material above the intake port, the manifold (designed for 2V
> >  heads) will bolt up to 4V heads without leaking air. This is a
> > rather common practice in Australia for 351C intake manifolds.
> >
> > The price shall be $750 AUD, $605 USD at today's exchange rate, 10%
> > discount for orders of 2 to 5, which lowers the price down to $545
> > USD. Shipping is extra via UPS or Australian Postal. Mark could not
> > quote an availablity date because the manifold is being modified for
> >  use with either 2V or 4V heads, he said he would have a better idea
> >  in 2 or 3 weeks.
> >
> > So, at a price of $545 USD plus shipping, who is interested in a
> > Weber 48IDF intake manifold that will allow the Webers to fit below
> > the engine screen with air filters attached!
> >
> > Besides the iron 2V & 4V heads, this intake will work with
> > Australian 2V (i.e. 302C) heads, the alloy 2V heads from Edelbrock,
> > CHI or AFD, and by elongating the manifold bolt holes it will work
> > with the CHI 3V head too (although it will sit higher with the 3V
> > heads and possibly not fit below the engine screen).
> >
> > If you've ever said to yourself you would like to install Webers on
> > your Pantera IF ONLY they weren't so fussy to tune & keep tuned; or
> > IF ONLY they could fit below the engine screen; now is your
> > opportunity, for $545 plus shipping, to purchase a manifold that
> > will solve those problems by allowing use of the proper carburetor.
> >
> > I must hear from Julian & Marcus, if they are still interested. I
> > also welcome other SERIOUS buyers to chime in and be counted. If we
> > get more than 5 buyers, Mark has promised to negotiate an even
> > better discount for us.
> >
> > cowboy from hell
> > George Pence
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