[DeTomaso] Fw: Low Weber intake

[Will Demelo]

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <asajay at asajay.com>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Low Weber intake


> Will,
>
> Can you send a direct link for this posting?  That would make it
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> Thanks,
> Asa Jay
>
> Quoting Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>:
>
>> Again, from the PI board.... If you're interested, get on board 
>> (literally).
>> Will
>>
>> There has been a thread about this manifold in the engine forum
>> below. In case you weren't following I'll provide the full story
>> here. There was a manifold manufactured years ago in Australia by a
>> man named John Cain, designed for the 351C with 2V heads, that was
>> an individual runner manifold for Weber 48 IDF carburetors.
>>
>> What you are used to seeing on Panteras are Weber 48IDA carburetors.
>>  The 48IDA is a racing carburetor with an idle circuit and a main
>> circuit (for wide open throttle). It is a very tall carburetor
>> designed with racing in mind, and has no provision for air
>> filtration. Achieving decent part throttle response requires
>> skillful blending of the idle metering circuit and the main metering
>>  circuit. In contrast, the 48IDF is a street carburetor, it has been
>>  original equipment on certain sports cars (such as Porsche) in the
>> days before fuel injection. It is a more compact, less tall
>> carburetor that has an intermediate metering circuit for proper and
>> reliable part throttle performance. It is also designed to be used
>> with air filter assemblies and Weber actually makes a line of air
>> filter assemblies for this carburetor.
>>
>> The manifold designed by John Cain has three appealing factors, (1)
>> it is low enough, that used in conjunction with the 48 IDF carbys
>> and the Weber air filters, the whole assembly will squeeze in below
>> the Pantera engine screen. (2) The 48 IDF carbys perform better on
>> the street than the 48 IDA. (3) You can have air filters to protect
>> your motor from inhaling dust.
>>
>> This manifold has been out of production for years. An Australian
>> gentleman named Mark, owning a company named Aussie Speed, has
>> acquired the rights to reproduce the John Cain line of intake
>> manifolds. I have approached him and he has began working on
>> preparing to reproduce the Cain 48 IDF Weber intake manifold for the
>>  351C. He is making a change to the design, by adding additional
>> flange material above the intake port, the manifold (designed for 2V
>>  heads) will bolt up to 4V heads without leaking air. This is a
>> rather common practice in Australia for 351C intake manifolds.
>>
>> The price shall be $750 AUD, $605 USD at today's exchange rate, 10%
>> discount for orders of 2 to 5, which lowers the price down to $545
>> USD. Shipping is extra via UPS or Australian Postal. Mark could not
>> quote an availablity date because the manifold is being modified for
>>  use with either 2V or 4V heads, he said he would have a better idea
>>  in 2 or 3 weeks.
>>
>> So, at a price of $545 USD plus shipping, who is interested in a
>> Weber 48IDF intake manifold that will allow the Webers to fit below
>> the engine screen with air filters attached!
>>
>> Besides the iron 2V & 4V heads, this intake will work with
>> Australian 2V (i.e. 302C) heads, the alloy 2V heads from Edelbrock,
>> CHI or AFD, and by elongating the manifold bolt holes it will work
>> with the CHI 3V head too (although it will sit higher with the 3V
>> heads and possibly not fit below the engine screen).
>>
>> If you've ever said to yourself you would like to install Webers on
>> your Pantera IF ONLY they weren't so fussy to tune & keep tuned; or
>> IF ONLY they could fit below the engine screen; now is your
>> opportunity, for $545 plus shipping, to purchase a manifold that
>> will solve those problems by allowing use of the proper carburetor.
>>
>> I must hear from Julian & Marcus, if they are still interested. I
>> also welcome other SERIOUS buyers to chime in and be counted. If we
>> get more than 5 buyers, Mark has promised to negotiate an even
>> better discount for us.
>>
>> cowboy from hell
>> George Pence
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