[DeTomaso] Low Weber intake

asajay at asajay.com asajay at asajay.com
Fri Mar 30 18:53:57 EDT 2007


Will,

Can you send a direct link for this posting?  That would make it  
easier to reply to.

Thanks,
Asa Jay

Quoting Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>:

> Again, from the PI board.... If you're interested, get on board (literally).
> Will
>
> There has been a thread about this manifold in the engine forum   
> below. In case you weren't following I'll provide the full story   
> here. There was a manifold manufactured years ago in Australia by a   
> man named John Cain, designed for the 351C with 2V heads, that was   
> an individual runner manifold for Weber 48 IDF carburetors.
>
> What you are used to seeing on Panteras are Weber 48IDA carburetors.  
>  The 48IDA is a racing carburetor with an idle circuit and a main   
> circuit (for wide open throttle). It is a very tall carburetor   
> designed with racing in mind, and has no provision for air   
> filtration. Achieving decent part throttle response requires   
> skillful blending of the idle metering circuit and the main metering  
>  circuit. In contrast, the 48IDF is a street carburetor, it has been  
>  original equipment on certain sports cars (such as Porsche) in the   
> days before fuel injection. It is a more compact, less tall   
> carburetor that has an intermediate metering circuit for proper and   
> reliable part throttle performance. It is also designed to be used   
> with air filter assemblies and Weber actually makes a line of air   
> filter assemblies for this carburetor.
>
> The manifold designed by John Cain has three appealing factors, (1)   
> it is low enough, that used in conjunction with the 48 IDF carbys   
> and the Weber air filters, the whole assembly will squeeze in below   
> the Pantera engine screen. (2) The 48 IDF carbys perform better on   
> the street than the 48 IDA. (3) You can have air filters to protect   
> your motor from inhaling dust.
>
> This manifold has been out of production for years. An Australian   
> gentleman named Mark, owning a company named Aussie Speed, has   
> acquired the rights to reproduce the John Cain line of intake   
> manifolds. I have approached him and he has began working on   
> preparing to reproduce the Cain 48 IDF Weber intake manifold for the  
>  351C. He is making a change to the design, by adding additional   
> flange material above the intake port, the manifold (designed for 2V  
>  heads) will bolt up to 4V heads without leaking air. This is a   
> rather common practice in Australia for 351C intake manifolds.
>
> The price shall be $750 AUD, $605 USD at today's exchange rate, 10%   
> discount for orders of 2 to 5, which lowers the price down to $545   
> USD. Shipping is extra via UPS or Australian Postal. Mark could not   
> quote an availablity date because the manifold is being modified for  
>  use with either 2V or 4V heads, he said he would have a better idea  
>  in 2 or 3 weeks.
>
> So, at a price of $545 USD plus shipping, who is interested in a   
> Weber 48IDF intake manifold that will allow the Webers to fit below   
> the engine screen with air filters attached!
>
> Besides the iron 2V & 4V heads, this intake will work with   
> Australian 2V (i.e. 302C) heads, the alloy 2V heads from Edelbrock,   
> CHI or AFD, and by elongating the manifold bolt holes it will work   
> with the CHI 3V head too (although it will sit higher with the 3V   
> heads and possibly not fit below the engine screen).
>
> If you've ever said to yourself you would like to install Webers on   
> your Pantera IF ONLY they weren't so fussy to tune & keep tuned; or   
> IF ONLY they could fit below the engine screen; now is your   
> opportunity, for $545 plus shipping, to purchase a manifold that   
> will solve those problems by allowing use of the proper carburetor.
>
> I must hear from Julian & Marcus, if they are still interested. I   
> also welcome other SERIOUS buyers to chime in and be counted. If we   
> get more than 5 buyers, Mark has promised to negotiate an even   
> better discount for us.
>
> cowboy from hell
> George Pence
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