[DeTomaso] Trailering Tiedown Points

Mon Mar 19 17:20:10 EDT 2007

No Larry,
They left the factory that way.  I call them pre-rusted for your driving
pleasure.  When I was a youngster I worked at a body shop for an old
Italian guy who was buddies with the old country.  And every year (at
least for the three that I worked there) we would receive several new
Ferraris shipped over for the New York auto show, and we would strip them
and repaint them properly for the show.  Because the original paint was
applied right over the rust, lead, dirt, bugs, and whatever got in the
way while they were painting them at the factory.
So yours is nothing special.
GPD4

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:03:31 -0500 "Larry - Ohio Time Corp."
<larry at ohiotimecorp.com> writes:
> <<our cars survived their trip across the bounding >>
> 
> >From the looks of my car I think it fell into the salt water more 
> then once.
> 
> Larry (Mr. Rusty) - Cleveland
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matt Merritt" <mmerritt at eventvehicles.com>
> To: "'Mad Dog Antenucci'" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trailering Tiedown Points
> 
> 
> > Hey, our cars survived their trip across the bounding main being 
> latched
> > down that way.  Nevertheless, I wouldn't use them either.
> >
> > MM
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:20 PM
> > To: Matt Merritt; 'hoppe1'
> > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trailering Tiedown Points
> >
> >
> > I disagree that they'd work fine even if they were not bent or 
> broken off.
> > Just for kicks look at where those original tie downs are attached 
> to.
> >
> > MD
> >
> > Matt Merritt <mmerritt at eventvehicles.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good question, Rich. Any Pantera I've owned had those hoops mashed 
> down or
> > broken off. If they're not rusty or bent up I guess they'd work 
> fine. Mike
> > Drew? Anyone?
> >
> > Matt Merritt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hoppe1 [mailto:hoppe1 at cox.net]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:26 PM
> > To: Matt Merritt
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trailering Tiedown Points
> >
> > Matt
> > I still have the factory tie down hoops in the front of the car. 
> Why don't
> > you use them?
> > Rich
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matt Merritt"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:43 PM
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Trailering Tiedown Points
> >
> >
> >> Hi Rick:
> >>
> >> With apologies to Peter - I strongly disagree with his 
> recomendation
> >> on how to tie down your Pantera for towing. I've hauled my 
> Pantera
> >> racecar all over the place and easily win the prize for most 
> paranoid
> >> hauler on the planet. I'm also in the car business and have been
> >> trained by the best. Here's how to do it:
> >>
> >> Materials:
> >>
> >> 1. First, to safely haul your car you need a trailer with 
> tiedowns
> >> that are at least a couple of feet away from the front and back
> >> corners of your car. A 24' enclosed trailer or 18' open trailer 
> are
> > optimal.
> >>
> >> 2. You'll also need four high-quality ratcheting tie-down straps 
> with
> >> spring-loaded hooks on both ends. Do NOT USE OPEN HOOKS. If a 
> strap
> >> with an open hook were to come loose it would just fall off the 
> car
> >> leaving your pride and joy rolling around in the trailer all by 
> itself.
> >> A loose strap is much better than no strap at all.
> >>
> >> 3. Get four axle straps.
> >>
> >> Placement:
> >>
> >> Load the car far enough forward that the balance point is well 
> ahead
> >> of the trailer wheels. Panteras are lighter in front and need to 
> be
> >> loaded farther forward most cars. Leave it in gear. This is 
> another
> >> good reason to have a 24' trailer.
> >>
> >> Tie Locations:
> >>
> >> Front: On each corner wrap the axle strap around the rearmost 
> part of
> >> the lower A-arm. Slide the strap as close to the center of the 
> car as
> >> possible, below all other parts of the suspension, and then to 
> the
> >> ratcheting tiedown strap. Then run the strap to the trailer's 
> anchor
> >> point. Use the tiedown on the same side of the car. Don't cross 
> the
> >> straps unless you have absolutely zero distance between the tie 
> and
> >> anchor ends. If you need to cross the straps that's a sign that 
> you
> >> need a better trailer.
> >>
> >> Rear: Wrap the axle strap around and to the inside of the 
> forwardmost
> >> lower A-arm, under everything else on the car, and down to the
> >> corresponding trailer tiedown. Some people alternatively wrap 
> the
> >> axle straps around the brace under the transxle (where everybody 
> puts
> >> those "DeTomaso" plaques) but this works only on early cars with 
> just
> >> a rear mount. On later cars the side ZF mounts are in the way.
> >>
> >> Once you've got the straps on and snug take the car out of gear. 
> Then
> >> go to whichever end you like and start tightening the straps. 
> Get
> >> them evenly nice and snug but not insanely tight. A little slack 
> will
> >> cause the car to move around in the trailer and will put a ton 
> more
> >> strain on the suspension than if it's tied down tightly. Also, 
> don't
> >> forget to put the car in neutral to take strain off the 
> transaxle. I
> >> also always put sand bags in front and behind one wheel for a 
> little
> >> extra insurance. Lastly, after I've driven for a few miles I 
> always
> >> pull over and check to make sure everything is riding properly.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps,
> >>
> >> Matt Merritt
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