[DeTomaso] ansa guts

Will Kooiman wkooiman at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 12 12:10:28 EDT 2007


I remember your peak was 347, mine was 342, JT was next.

I believe JT had the highest torque numbers.  His HP tapered off with
flutters in the curve (valvetrain).

Jim Narum had a fuel delivery problem.  His car leaned out when you leaned
on it.

Will.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Gray Gregory
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:50 AM
To: John Taphorn; David_Bell at oxy.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ansa guts

Ok I'm chiming in... My car does have Hall's GTS exhaust sys. I always
assumed it was stock, but if Gary says he modifies them then there you
go. 

I also seem to remember my car made more hp than everyone else's, but
nobody seems to be mentioning that. :>))

Gray

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of John Taphorn
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:25 AM
To: David_Bell at oxy.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ansa guts

David

Ideally, Gray will chime in and set the record straight.  Your yarn is 
pretty convincing though. Of course, I pulled the data from our Dyno Day

spreadsheet.  We didn't qualify Gray's exhaust as other than stock and I

seem to recall surprise at the high end numbers.  You car's gutted Ansa 
results were similar to mine.

JT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <David_Bell at oxy.com>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ansa guts


> My memory of the sound measurement exercise during the dyno day is
> slightly different - though occasionally I've been known to completely
> disremember things so you can't necessarily take this to the bank.
But
> I 'think' that the 'stock' GTS exhaust in JT's table was actually a
> remanufactured system that Gray Gregory bought from Gary Hall.  I
talked
> to Gary at TWS one year when he brought out his grabber blue 'POPCAL'
> car to run at the track.  I liked the POPCAL sound so much that I
asked
> Gary about it.  He told me that the GTS exhaust systems he sold were
> stockish Ansa mufflers that had been gutted and put back together.  I
> wasn't sure exactly what he meant by 'gutted', but at any rate that's
> where I got the idea to try it on my car.  I ended up getting some
more
> details from Tony DiGiovana, who'd actually done it to his car, before
I
> pulled out the die grinder and chopped mine up.
>
> Anyway....the stock GTS exhaust measurement may actually not be
'stock'.
> My ear tells me that at WOT the gutted mufflers are significantly
louder
> than before the surgery.  But at idle and normal driving they are
maybe
> only slightly louder, but have a meaner sounding growl (whatever that
> means).
>
> YMMV
>
> Dave Bell (was bored in Abu-Dhabi, currently bored in Oman, soon to be
> bored in Qatar)
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Garth I do not have a sound clip. The exhaust noise is throatier and
> only slightly louder. The modification helps minimize the chirping
noise
> often heard with the GTS. Space City Panteras measured sound levels at
> idle and full throttle for various exhaust systems.
> A sample follows -Idle/Wide open in db
> Gutted GTS 94/118
> GTS 84/119
> Big Bore 93/121
> Magna Flow 89/120
> Mindtrain 98/122
> The measured sound level difference between a gutted and stock GTS was
> insignificant; although, it seems louder subjectively.
>
> JT
>
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