[DeTomaso] tire opinion

Sat Mar 10 04:17:52 EST 2007

Garth,
     I don't like the sound of 60 series tires on the front and 205 is going 
to be a pretty skinny tire.  IMHO

Art

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>; "SEL" <edlebby at yahoo.com>; 
<detomaso at realbig.com>; "Robert" <corvette at hwy9.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] tire opinion


> Let me clarify...  I have no intention of mixing different brands.
>  Should I go with the Toyos or the Hankooks?
>  And if the Hankooks, which size for the front tires - 50 or 60 series?
>
>  Option 1: Toyo Proxes
>  front: Toyo Proxes 4    225/50/15
>  rear:  Toyo Proxes S/T  295/50/15
>
>  Option 2: Hankook Ventus
>  front: Hankook Ventus HRII H405  205/50/15*
>  rear:  Hankook Ventus ST RH06    295/50/15
>
>  Option 3: Hankook Ventus
>  front: Hankook Ventus HRII H405  205/60/15*
>  rear:  Hankook Ventus ST RH06    295/50/15
>
>  * Which of these sizes will look best on the P-car with a 295/50/15 tire 
> on the rear?
>
>  Thanks,
>  Garth
>
> Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
>    Mario,
>
>  While you continue to log the largest data base in the world on Pantera 
> tire options just make sure YOU get the damn tires before Vegas and ORR 
> season. Those V rated tires will work qualify for GT (140 Mph) division. 
> Forget about the mix&match on using multiple tire mfg's front and back.
>
>  Mad Dawg Antenucci
>  Team Pantera Racing
>  If you're not on the edge you're taking up space"
>  www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  More tires to choose from. I just found that Hankook offers a
> 295/50/15 tire in a V speed rating. The only problem is their
> limited selection of Hankook Ventus tire sizes for the front.
>
> Rear: Hankook Ventus ST RH06
> 295/50/15 420-A-A V speed rating $134.99 ea.
> http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Hankook&tiremodel=Ventus+ST+RH06
>
> Front: Hankook Ventus HRII H405
> 205/50/15 340-A-A V speed rating $94.99 ea.
> 205/60/15 340-A-A V speed rating $86.99 ea.
> http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Hankook&tiremodel=Ventus+HRII+H405
>
> I currently have 305/50/15 tires on the rear of my car, and
> 205/60/15 tires on the front, which provides a nice visual balance.
> See pic at bottom of this page:
> http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3350045562/m/6900094662/p/35)
>
> Switching to a 295/50/15 tire on the rear means the rear tires
> will have a shorter sidewall and shorter overall diameter.
>
> Rear Tires: Current Tire Toyo Hankook
> 305/50/15 295/50/15 295/50/15
> Sidewall Height: 4.84 4.43 4.43
> Section Width: 8.07 8.86 8.86
> Overall Diameter: 24.69 23.86 23.86
>
>
> I was previously planning to go with the Toyos 295/50/15 on the
> rear and 225/50/15 on the front, which I believe would yeild a
> nice visual balance in sidewall height and overall tire diameter.
> However, Hankook does not have a 225/50/15 size available. Hankook
> offers a 205/60/15 (same as my current front tire) and a 205/50/15.
>
> Front Tires: Current Tire Toyo Hankook Hankook
> 205/60/15 225/50/15 205/60/15 205/50/15
> Sidewall Height: 4.84 4.43 4.84 4.04
> Section Width: 8.07 8.86 8.07 8.07
> Overall Diameter: 24.69 23.86 24.69 23.07
>
> So, my concern is that if I switch to the smaller 295/50/15 rear tire, but 
> keep the current 60
> series size on the front, it may create the illusion that the front 
> tire/wheel is larger than the
> rear. However the 205/50/15 just strikes me as too small. Maybe I should 
> forget my quest
> for "V" rated tires and just go with the Toyo tires like I was planning to 
> do.
>
> What's your opinion? What size combinations are others with stock wheels 
> running?
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Garth Rodericks
> To: Stephen Lebowitz ; detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 11:06:30 AM
> Subject: tire opinion
>
> Stephen,
>
> I'm in the same situation and have been researching and searching for 
> tires since last
> Summer. I just visited one of my local tire shops to check their prices 
> and availability
> against what I found online. So, here's my opinion...
>
> Buy Toyo Proxes. I've included links to the best prices I've found so far. 
> FWIW, each tire is
> approximately $40 more from Americas/Discount Tire. You have two different 
> options for the
> front tire - Proxes 4 or Proxes T1-R. I prefer the Proxes 4 on the front 
> because I think the
> tread pattern more closely matches the tread pattern of the S/T on the 
> rear. Anyway, I've
> included them both so you can decide for yourself.
>
> Front:
> Proxes T1-R 225/50/15 91V (149mph) $97
> http://ec-securehost.com/OnlineTires.com/Toyo_PROXES_T1-R.html or
>
> Proxes 4 225/50/15 95V (149mph) $71
> http://www.ec-securehost.com/OnlineTires.com/Toyo_Proxes_4.html
>
> Rear:
> Proxes S/T 295/50/15 HR (130mph) $100
> http://www.ec-securehost.com/OnlineTires.com/Toyo_ST.html#ToyoST
>
>
> My comments on your choices follow:
> 1. Dunlop GT Qualifier T - T speed rating - 225/15/50 front and 295/15/50 
> back - about $430 mounted
>>>> These tires are only rated to 115 mph. You will likely exceed that in 
>>>> "spirited" street
> use. And, the GT Qualifier is not known for excellent grip. The Toyo's I 
> listed above offer a
> better combination of performance, handling and style at about the same 
> price point.
>
> 2. Nitto NT 555R Drag Radial - VR speed rating - 275/15/50 all the way 
> around (only available size)
> - about $750 mounted (these are the tires Dennis (aka Dawg) wrote about 
> last week)
>>>> These are NOT the tires the Dawg wrote about last week. These are Drag 
>>>> Radials.
> DO NOT use these on your Pantera. The are not designed for the side loads 
> your Pantera
> can generate. I believe MD mentioned the Nitto NT01, which is a DOT 
> approved road race
> tire. However, it's not available in a size suitable for the rear of our 
> cars. Anyway, do not
> mount drag radials on your Pantera.
>
> Cheers!
> Garth
> #4033
>
>
>
>
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