[DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update

[Dan Courtney]

Donny,

Right, no drop at all in oil pressure. Couldn't tell where the knock/clap 
was coming from.
If I send the oil in for analysis, can they tell the difference between the 
dis gear and bearings?

Dan
Dan F. Courtney


Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
La Jolla, CA

Phone (858) 551-5455
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donny Williams" <donnylee at ccwebster.net>
To: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at pacbell.net>; "Mad Dog Antenucci" 
<teampantera at yahoo.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update


> Dan I am betting it is your bronze gear your seeing in the oil, and its 
> nothing more then a rocker adjustment if your not knocking somewhere low!
>
> My plan would be pull the dizzy look at your gear for wear, change the oil 
> filters, I might inspect the bottom of your lifters if they are roller 
> then adjust up your rockers and give it a whirl.... You did not drop oil 
> pressure right?   I am now betting your problem is nothing more then some 
> top end maintenance.   And I am sure you hope the same.  You might just be 
> ok here Mister............
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at pacbell.net>
> To: "Donny Williams" <donnylee at ccwebster.net>; "Mad Dog Antenucci" 
> <teampantera at yahoo.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update
>
>
>> Donny,
>>
>> I may just do that. There is a bronze gear and the rockers are very 
>> loose, so it MAY be just the solid lifter cam in need of adjustment, but 
>> I'd hate to guess wrong (again).
>> I just finished dropping a rebuilt SBC into my 67 Chevy trailer hauler 
>> last night so the cherry picker is still assembled and in the garage...
>>
>> Dan
>> Dan F. Courtney
>>
>>
>> Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
>> La Jolla, CA
>>
>> Phone (858) 551-5455
>> Fax (858) 551-5456
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Donny Williams" <donnylee at ccwebster.net>
>> To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>; "Dan Courtney" 
>> <dfcex at pacbell.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update
>>
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>>> My thought is if you have metallic sheen thats all you need to know. 
>>> Cut your filter and look for metal imbedded in the element.  If you got 
>>> noise I am betting bearings.  Are you running a bronze dizzy gear?  That 
>>> could be a source of sheen, but so is copper bearing..... Change the oil 
>>> hope for the best, or pull it out which would be a direction you would 
>>> have to take to inspect it properly anyway.  What does the noise sound 
>>> like? Personally, I would save your money on the oil analysis, heck, you 
>>> already know you got metal...He would just say yep there is metal in 
>>> your oil........At that point its not that important what type, you will 
>>> have to pull it out anyway to fix it.  And should be easy to find the 
>>> source with the inspection.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at pacbell.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for race report.....sorry to hear about your engine.....you 
>>>> drain the oil and pull filters yet?  Do a leak down test?  As Bob 
>>>> Benson likes to say if you aren't breaking anything you aren't trying 
>>>> hard enough.
>>>>
>>>>  md
>>>>
>>>> Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>  I was wondering if anyone remembers the contact info for the company 
>>>> that performs an analysis of engine oil.
>>>> "The Beast" got a hard work-out at Willow Springs last week and was 
>>>> making some noise by Sunday afternoon.
>>>> Nothing obvious when I pulled the valve covers but the oil has a 
>>>> metallic sheen.
>>>> Speaking of Willow Springs, we had a decent showing of Panteras but, 
>>>> sadly, no Panteras ran in the exhibition race, for the first time I can 
>>>> recall.
>>>> I arrived late and had no chance to warm up, Greg Esakoff snaped the 
>>>> input shaft of his ZF Friday, Chris Qualls (sp) had an axle snap 
>>>> Saturday morning and went 4 wheeling and the other Panteras present 
>>>> (Jim Saxtons Group IV, now owned by Jeff), Dr. Abe, and a beautiful red 
>>>> former Woodhouse Pantera all ran different groups.
>>>> The red group was very fast with alot of blazing fast Porches, Ferraris 
>>>> and Vipers leading the pack. "The Beast" was holding it's own by Sunday 
>>>> afternoon but some of those cars were just too darn fast.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan F. Courtney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
>>>> La Jolla, CA
>>>>
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