[DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update

Donny Williams donnylee at ccwebster.net
Fri Mar 9 17:08:34 EST 2007


Dan I am betting it is your bronze gear your seeing in the oil, and its 
nothing more then a rocker adjustment if your not knocking somewhere low!

My plan would be pull the dizzy look at your gear for wear, change the oil 
filters, I might inspect the bottom of your lifters if they are roller then 
adjust up your rockers and give it a whirl.... You did not drop oil pressure 
right?   I am now betting your problem is nothing more then some top end 
maintenance.   And I am sure you hope the same.  You might just be ok here 
Mister............


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at pacbell.net>
To: "Donny Williams" <donnylee at ccwebster.net>; "Mad Dog Antenucci" 
<teampantera at yahoo.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update


> Donny,
>
> I may just do that. There is a bronze gear and the rockers are very loose, 
> so it MAY be just the solid lifter cam in need of adjustment, but I'd hate 
> to guess wrong (again).
> I just finished dropping a rebuilt SBC into my 67 Chevy trailer hauler 
> last night so the cherry picker is still assembled and in the garage...
>
> Dan
> Dan F. Courtney
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donny Williams" <donnylee at ccwebster.net>
> To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>; "Dan Courtney" 
> <dfcex at pacbell.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update
>
>
>> My thought is if you have metallic sheen thats all you need to know.  Cut 
>> your filter and look for metal imbedded in the element.  If you got noise 
>> I am betting bearings.  Are you running a bronze dizzy gear?  That could 
>> be a source of sheen, but so is copper bearing..... Change the oil hope 
>> for the best, or pull it out which would be a direction you would have to 
>> take to inspect it properly anyway.  What does the noise sound like? 
>> Personally, I would save your money on the oil analysis, heck, you 
>> already know you got metal...He would just say yep there is metal in your 
>> oil........At that point its not that important what type, you will have 
>> to pull it out anyway to fix it.  And should be easy to find the source 
>> with the inspection.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at pacbell.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Oil Analysis / Willow Springs Update
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for race report.....sorry to hear about your engine.....you drain 
>>> the oil and pull filters yet?  Do a leak down test?  As Bob Benson likes 
>>> to say if you aren't breaking anything you aren't trying hard enough.
>>>
>>>  md
>>>
>>> Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>  I was wondering if anyone remembers the contact info for the company 
>>> that performs an analysis of engine oil.
>>> "The Beast" got a hard work-out at Willow Springs last week and was 
>>> making some noise by Sunday afternoon.
>>> Nothing obvious when I pulled the valve covers but the oil has a 
>>> metallic sheen.
>>> Speaking of Willow Springs, we had a decent showing of Panteras but, 
>>> sadly, no Panteras ran in the exhibition race, for the first time I can 
>>> recall.
>>> I arrived late and had no chance to warm up, Greg Esakoff snaped the 
>>> input shaft of his ZF Friday, Chris Qualls (sp) had an axle snap 
>>> Saturday morning and went 4 wheeling and the other Panteras present (Jim 
>>> Saxtons Group IV, now owned by Jeff), Dr. Abe, and a beautiful red 
>>> former Woodhouse Pantera all ran different groups.
>>> The red group was very fast with alot of blazing fast Porches, Ferraris 
>>> and Vipers leading the pack. "The Beast" was holding it's own by Sunday 
>>> afternoon but some of those cars were just too darn fast.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
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