[DeTomaso] Doc Abe Averages 118 Mph at Bonneville 100 Saturday- Congratulations Doc!!!!!

Mon Jun 11 15:25:30 EDT 2007

Tom, Thanks for the input. I'm familiar with what the Silver State requires for safety equipment since I ran there last year. I'm planning to be good with all of that. What I'm particularly interested in are those things specific to Panteras. I want to make sure I don't miss anything in my preparation, and I'd like to leverage the experience of those that have gone before so I can learn from them and not repeat some of their mistakes. Scott

Tom Di Iulio <diiulio at ix.netcom.com> wrote: Mad Dawg will chime in here with more specifics but you can visit any of
the ORR websites to get most of the info you're asking for. A couple of
the big issues at that speed is the requirement of a full rollcage and
probably an onboard fire suppression system. 
Those 2 items have kept me from moving up from my usual target speed of
115-120. although you car run up to 140 in that class without breaking
your tech speed range, you really have to consider how fast you should
be moving without additional safety equipment. I have never wanted to
install a full cage in a car that I routinely run on the street. Not
criticizing those that have, just saying it ain't for me. 
As for our cars handling that speed, you should be adding aero mods to
keep the car planted to the road surface and also changing your gear
ratios. Obviously having Z rated tires are a must as well as an
effective cooling system. 
Brakes are important but not as much as if you are running on road
courses, with plenty of gear changes and corners. 
Running ANY car at 165mph is extremely dangerous and all your efforts
should be to make the car as safe as possible should you leave the road.
I don't think most people understand how close to the edge you are at
that velocity, especially in our 35 yr old cars. 
One reason the "joke" about Dennis' death caused such an uproar was that
we all knew it could absolutely happen as described. 
Tom Di Iulio
Denver, CO

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Couchman
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:39 AM
To: Mad Dog Antenucci; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Doc Abe Averages 118 Mph at Bonneville 100
Saturday- Congratulations Doc!!!!!

Mad Dog, Can you provide a list (and maybe short description) of the
changes from stock that are required to make the Pantera a stable
platform to tech and run 165mph in an ORR.

Mad Dog Antenucci  wrote: Joe "Doc" Abe, called
me on his way home from Wendover, Utah, to say he and his Pantera
finished the 2-way 100 mile run at the B-100 averaging 118 Mph in the
Touring Division on Saturday.  He also completed the 1,450 round trip
drive from home driving his Pantera all the way. 

  You can see some of the course video in corners on the MKM Racing web
site www.openroadracing.com. The course has some challenging turns and
elevation changes.

  Doc mentioned he had planned to enter Grand Touring Division (140 Mph)
but forgot before he got to Tech Inspection that his harness was more
then 3 years old so he got dumbed down in speed to Touring.  He gave a
real short race report but said race conditions were near perfect with
no wind or heat. 

  He also mentioned Mike Borders was the big gun with his X-winston cup
M&M cup car averaging 187 Mph which is damned impressive on a 2-lane
crowned road with elevation changes and real turns. And my favorite race
car and driver this weekend was again Charlie Friend in Charlie's '65
Corvair who finally exceeded 200 mph hitting 201 Mph in the radar trap
for the first time, Charlie has consistently averaged 160-170 mph in the
past in that Corvair. Charlie went off the Silver State road 3 years ago
after a rear tire blow-out at about 160 and totaled his Corvair so it
was a big deal seeing Charlie return earlier in May with a new Corvair
when Jason, Eliot and I ran at the NORC. 

  Right now Doc is on a serious ORR campaign. He's planning to  run the
MKM Gamblers Run in July and the Pony Express in August and join us back
at the Silver State in September.

  Way to go Doc. Very proud of you.  
  P.S. Don't forget to change out your harness! ;-]>

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
  The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com
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