[DeTomaso] 2nd gear

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Mon Jul 16 10:20:14 EDT 2007


Thanks Fred,  that's pretty much what I was thinking, but I haven't had 
a manual transmission apart in a while, so my memory is fuzzy.  If I 
recall, the second gear synchro is one of the first to go.

Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
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F&D Terry wrote:
> I thought the springs and balls were part of an interlock to prevent 
> engaging two gears at one time as well as indexing the ZF in a selected 
> gear. The balls and springs are too small to depend on for any effort to 
> retain the transmission in gear and only provide a positive stop or 
> index. I thought that the synchronizer is responsible for holding the ZF 
> in the selected gear. There are "points" or highs on the gears of the 
> synchronizer that act as detents to hold it in or out of gear. If the 
> edges of the teeth on the gear that engage with the synchronizer as well 
> as the mating synchronizer gear teeth are chipped or worn and rounded it 
> is then that the ZF is likely to pop out of gear. Maybe I have an 
> improper understanding.
>
> Fred T.
>
> John Taphorn wrote:
>
>   
>> Steve
>>
>> Your memory serves you well.  However, I would be surprised to see one of 
>> those springs broken.
>>
>> Chris - Any chance that the shift linkage is being struck by the rotating 
>> halfshaft and being helped out of gear?  I'd look there first.
>>
>> JT
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Hawkins" <shawkins6 at houston.rr.com>
>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2nd gear
>>
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>>> If I remember correctly from when mine was appart there are some small
>>> cylinders that move as gears are changed and they hold the gears in place.
>>> Maybe John Taphorn will jump in and correct me.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:00 PM
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] 2nd gear
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm home for a day in between traveling and I noticed no one has responded
>>> to a question I asked, so maybe it never made it to the forum.  Here it 
>>> is:
>>>
>>> Occasionally, my car will pop out of second gear and go into neutral for 
>>> no
>>> apparent reason.  Reverse and fifth work fine, and the shift lever isn't
>>> hitting the console before it gets fully into gear.
>>>
>>> When in neutral the shift lever moves freely so I don't think it has the
>>> extra detent some have mentioned in other forum notes.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
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